8th Sunday After Pentecost 28 July/10 August

Reading from the Old Testament, Holy Gospels, Acts, Epistles and Revelation, our priests' and bishops' sermons, and commentary by the Church Fathers. All Forum Rules apply.


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Luke 11:28

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Patristic Commentary Luke 11:28 by Saint Chrysostom: "He did not say this as repudiating His Mother, but to show that His birth would have been no gain to her unless she was also good and faithful in all things. ... Bless me, what honor, what virtue! Unto what a height does she lead up him who follows after her! How many women have called the holy Virgin blessed, and her womb, and prayed that they might become such mothers, and give up all! What then is there to prevent? For behold, a wide path has been amrked out for us, and it is granted notto women only, bet men also. ..." [Hom. 44 on St. Matthew, P.G. 57:469 (col. 466).]

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8th Sunday after Pentecost - Miracle of the Five Loaves and Two Fishes
Matthew 14:14-22
From The Explanation of the Gospel of St. Matthew
by Blessed Theophylact, Archbishop of Ochrid and Bulgaria

13-14. And when the people had heard thereof, they followed Him on foot out of the cities. And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and He healed their sick. The multitude show their faith by running to Jesus even as He is departing, for which they receive healing as the reward of faith. Their following on foot and without any provisions are also signs of faith.

15-16. And when it was evening, His disciples came to Him, saying, This is a desert place, and the hour is now late; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy food for themselves. But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat. The disciples are compassionate and concerned about the multitude, not wanting them to go without food. What, then, does the Saviour do? Give ye them to eat, He says, not in ignorance of the extreme poverty of the apostles--far from it. But so that when they had said, "We do not have," He might appear to proceed to work a miracle out of necessity and not from vainglory.

17-19. And they say unto Him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes. He said, Bring them hither to Me. And He commanded the multitude to recline on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, He blessed. "Bring the loaves here to Me. Though it be evening, I Who created the hours am here. Though it be a deserted place, it is I Who giveth food to all flesh." We learn from this that we must spend in hospitality even the little that we have, just as the apostles gave to the crowds the little that they had. As that little was multiplied, so too will your little be multiplied. He bids the multitude to recline on the grass, teaching frugality, so that you also, O reader, may not take your ease on expensive beds and couches. He looks up to heaven and blesses the loaves, as if both to confirm that He is not opposed to God but that He came from the Father and from heaven, and also to teach us to give thanks when we begin a meal and only then to eat.

19-21. And He brake, and gave the loaves to His disciples, and the disciples gave them to the multitude. And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full. And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children. He gives the loaves to the disciples so that they might always retain the miracle in their memory and not have it fade from their minds, although they did in fact immediately forget. There was food left over lest you think that He performed the miracle only in appearance. There were twelve baskets so that Judas too might carry one and thus remembering the miracle not rush headlong into betrayal. And He multiplies both the loaves and the fish to show that He is the Creator of earth and sea, and the Giver of what we eat everyday, and it is multiplied by Him. He performed the miracle in a deserted place lest anyone think that He bought the loaves from a neighboring town and distributed them to the multitude, for it was deserted. This is the explanation of the literal account. But in its spiritual sense, learn that when Herod, who represents the fleshly and superficial mind of the Jews (for "Herod" means "fleshly" and "skinlike"), cut off the head of John who was the head and chief of the prophets, it showed that Herod rejected those who prophesied of Christ. Whereupon Jesus withdrew to a desert place, to the nations who were desolate without God, and He healed the sick in soul and then He fed them. For if He had not forgiven our sins and healed our sicknesses by baptism He could not have nourished us by giving us the immaculate Mysteries, for no one partakes of Holy Communion who has not first been baptized. The five thousand are those who are sick in their five senses and who are healed by the five loaves. Since the five senses were diseased, there are as many poultices as there are wounds. The two fish are the words of the fishermen. The one fish is the Gospel and the other the Epistles. Some have understood the five loaves to signify the Pentateuch of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Twelve baskets were lifted up and carried by the apostles; for whatever we, the multitude, are unable to eat, that is, to understand, the apostles carried and held, that is, they accepted and understood. "Besides women and children." This means, allegorically, that a Christian man, woman, or child, must not in any way be childish, womanly, or unmanly.

  1. And straightway Jesus constrained His disciples to get into a boat, and to go before Him unto the other side, while He sent the multitudes away. By saying "constrained", Matthew suggests how inseparable the disciples were from Jesus, for they wanted to be with Him at all times. He sends the multitudes away, not wishing to draw them after Him lest He appear to vaunt in His powers.
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You know what is sad? I have heard from Roman Catholics, that some of their priests describe this as the 'Miracle of Sharing' and that Jesus did not do a miracle, its just that everyone had food and shared it. In kindness they lied that the were full and passed it on to others, adding their food and this is why there was so much in the end. Thus like this, the people with possesions should give them to those that do not, using the 'Miracle of Sharing' as an example! :o

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Well it is Friday, any one else have any thoughts or Patristics? Either is good to reply with. :) Just remember on Sunday or Monday to come back and post about your priest's sermon on the Gospel!

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Hello? Is this thing on???

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Comments on the Patristic commentaries are good too! Anyone out there? :?

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I'm sure that everyone is just praying and meditating on the information, and we'll have an explosion of responses tomorrow. Right, my fellow participants?

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Not the homily at my church...

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I went to a bbq at my Godfather's after trapeza and a Reader from the other ROCOR church in town, said that Fr. Theodore's sermon was on saying we are not of Peter, of Paul etc. His sermon was that people still do this today, saying I am of Gabriel, I am not of Gabriel, I am of Laurus, I am not of Laurus, I am Vitaly, I am not of Vitaly. This being people in ROCOR. Supposedly it was so powerful that people that were guilty of said things looked at their meet in shame. We need to be of Christ he reminded the flock. Let us not ever forget that.

Anyone else?

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