anastasios wrote:joselauro wrote:P.S. But daher was baned
No, he was not. In fact, he logged in today.
Anastasios
Administrator, OCnet
Dear Anastasios:
I know JoseLauro and more even to Rafael Daher, I believe that they are good guys, and have not wanted to offend anybody, maybe they just have become hard in defending that that they know as Orthodoxy.
I wish you a Good and Holy Passion Week
Priest Siluan
Priest Siluan wrote:joselauro wrote:Someone said
So? This board is full of individuals belonging to "traditional" schismatic groups outside of the Orthodox Church.Oh, please!! :bump: We don't think like this.
Of course, José, that someone (If you didn't know) is not Orthodox but a Protestant.
Well, that is only true if you consider the GOA protestant.
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They say that I am bad news. They say "Stay Away."
EkhristosAnesti,
"We value our rejection of the crypto-Nestorian heresy promulgated at Chalcedon with much pride."and
Amen, and proud of it. The Coptic Orthodox Church: The Church that excelled/excels in ascetism - the Church that introduced the Orthodox world to monastacism, The Church that excelled/excels in academics - the Church that introduced the Orthodox world to allegorical exegesis, the Church that produced the greatest defenders of Orthodoxy...
I have often found those doing the accusing - and most often myself when so accusing - are most guilty of that which we accuse others of. If we looked hard enough, wouldn't we see this all the time? And seeing it, wouldn't we be ashamed - mourning for our sins?
'The judgement we give is the judgement we get' is a law, like for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, or conservation of mass or momentum or energy - it is inescapable and universal - proceeding from the mouth of the Lord by whom all things were made, and being spiritual above all things created as well, absolutely immutable. Yet we should observe this law at work everywhere, for there were two trees in the midst of the Garden, one leading to the fruit of knowing Good and Evil, that is selfish judgment, and the other leading to eternal Life, the Holy Cross of whom only the Lord Himself was found to be worthy to become the eternal blessed fruit.
Heaven and Earth may pass away, but the Word will not pass away.
So just as we humble ourselves to obey physical laws (we have no other choice), shouldn't we humble ourselves to fullfill the true and overarching spiritual law, and refrain from judging others?
Our St. Maximos the Confessor pointed out in the Greek language that Christ has two natures and two wills, fully human and fully divine in unconfused union. This understanding is necessary for our understanding of deification so that man might subject his human will to the will of God. So being God, for Jesus truly arose from the dead, he was both fully human and fully divine and His salvation is freely offered to all. That salvation is nothing less than freedom from sin and death by subjecting our will to God's will that we receive in Holy Baptism. We follow Jesus, none other, and being children by adoption we have no other method way to follow Him than to subject our will to God's will - and He therefore lead the way we trod, so that His baptism becomes our baptism.
Because Jesus was Baptized in the river Jordan to fullfill all righteousness and did not allow John to shy away from baptizing Him. We know Jesus has two natures and two wills, fully human, fully divine. So the Lord speaks of his passion as a baptism. We take up our cross and follow Him - fully.
St. Maximos the Confessor suffered a great deal, including having his hand cut off and his tongue cut out, yet he prevailed in his teaching because he judged noone, but rather subjected himself to the Will of God.
"God became man so man could become like God."
Search the Scriptures.
andy holland
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