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Chrysostomos wrote:

Being part of the "World Orthodoxy" group that Fr. Siluan mentions, I will have to disagree that they feel that they are the only orthodox churches in their respective countries or the world.

I would agree since many are so deep in ecumenism that there are true Churches outside of World Orthodoxy, such as the Antiochian and Alexandrian patriarchates with the Monophysites and the EP when it comes to Roman Catholicism or Protestant Religions like Luthernaism. But generally speaking, the same hierarchs that feel this way do not consider the traditionalist Orthodox Churches to be Orthodox. Just in the last year the OCA's Met Herman talked how he hoped the ROCOR would come back to the Church even though the OCA is a schism from the ROCOR!

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As to the Canons, we all have broken them, regardless of Traditional or World Orthodox. I can quote some, but let it suffice to say, it wouldn't matter. What would it prove, who would benefit?

That is true, but there is a difference in canons that speak of the dogmatic faith and canons that are a matter of discipline. Breaking a canon and being in communing and concelebrating with Monophysites or Toman Catholics is a very different thing than ordaining a bishop at the age of 34. One is heretical, one is not. Ekonomia on the part of bishops is allowed in the later situation, but not in matters of faith as the first example is.

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Dear Rd Chrysostomos

I agree with you in oen point, before I speak roughly, there are many people and clergymen in the "World Orthodoxy" that they try to make the correct thing and they are sacrificed for it, they try to fulfill the Tradition and Holy Canons etc.... these they are those that I call Traditionalist that fight "from inside", even Holy Metropolitan Philaret (Voznesensky) respected them (For intance Fr Dimitry Dudko). But I think that they regrettably are a minority.

There are also in the "Traditional Church" very bad and corrupt people.

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What an awesome idea! When will it be available?

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Jacqueline, I am glad you are excited by the idea. Our goal is to have it live by Pascha.

Also while we only promised the USA for when the map is revealed, we may actually end up having all of North and South America listed!

Europe and Asia will probably be the hardest continents to complete, so Australlia might be the next continent we try to conquer! :-)

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Chrysostomos wrote:

Being part of the "World Orthodoxy" group that Fr. Siluan mentions, I will have to disagree that they feel that they are the only orthodox churches in their respective countries or the world.

Of course, I speak as a simple layperson/reader. I do not know the inner workings of my "World Orthodox" jurisdiction....Your fellow struggler in Christ,

Rd. Chrysostomos

Yes, Chrysostomos, that was my experience when I was under Geronda Ephrem. Nobody there among either the clergy or the laity thought in the least that the Old Calendar groups (at least not the main and more reputable ones) were "not the Church". Indeed they were often spoken of very well in my own hearing by Elder Paisios and many of the laymen I met. In fact, they often recommended people to attend just such Churches instead of the Scoba ones. So, I'd have to agree with you.

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Well back on topic, we have listed and mapped 61 churches in North and South America. (This number will probably grow once the ROCOR-MP union is completed) In some places you have to zoom in as there are 2 churches in one town and the markers cover one another. This is true in Venezuela and Chile as well as some Americans and Canadian cities.

While our plan was to go live by Pascha, we now expect, God-willing, that the map will be ready tomorrow on the Feast of the Entry of the Lord in to Jerusalem; Palm/Willow/Flowery Sunday.

We used public records where available and tried to contact at least one person from each jutsidiction who posts here on the cafe to get accurate location information. We cannot guarantee accuracy of all information so we highly reccomend you visit the Cathedral/Chapel/Church/Convent/Monastery's web site first if applicable and be sure to call or email first to verify the location and service times.

If anyone finds any errors or would like to help us with this project, please let us know. Thank you in advance!

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Okay, it is in a beta state right now, but those of you following this thread, please feel free to beta test the map at http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/map/

We do know there are a few bugs and mistakes, but feel free to let us know if you see any so we can have it eunning completely smooth by Pascha.

BTW IE makes it look weird, so please use a better, more advances browser liker Firefox, Opera or Safari please.

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