covering of head at home prayer

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Thank you all for your responses. About the covering of heads all the time, I am definitely for it. It is a gesture in modesty and if we are to be constantly at prayer, it works. I find myself now that I quit working covering in all home situations more frequently, both in prayer and housework. I do admit you get some strange looks at the grocery store though, epsecially in a post 9/11 society ("hey look at the Muslim lady"), but what the heck.

As far as the covering of women's heads in Old Country Orthodox countries, I can tell you what I know from a Babushka in my family who is like 70 years old. She is from Bosnia and grew up in a village that was half Muslim, half Serb Orthodox. To this day, you never see her with out her "marama (scarf) for more than a few seconds when she's readjusting it, even in muggy Florida. She has a little grandson about 5 years old who will automatically start yelling when she reties it, as to make sure she doesn't take it off. Anyway, she told me one day that as soon as girls were considered "girls" and not kids, they started wearing scarves. Out in the fields, tending sheep, church, whatever. For them it did not rely upon marital status. She told me that in her day- any girl without her head covered was considered a "whore" and not even considered for marriage or anything. This was in a multi-religious Yugoslavia, so whose faith this custom was derived from, I don't know.

Just some observations.

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Tessa[/quote]

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Romiosini,

Some interesting tradition of having the church at home!

I've also read that a Christian home should represent the Church. The incensing is a tool. It's a reminder of the church when we are away. The parents are the Abba and Abbess. The children are to be obedient to them. But, how far away from the truth are we living now? It alsmost seems abnormal to try and live by these traditional standards.

This is what we have become in our society. Even the idea of covering our heads at all times, outside of Church and in public, seems weird.

EVEN I would feel weird having my head covered in public...except in the winter when it is WAAAYYY tooo cold, here.

But, as for the moment of private prayer, it is fine by me.

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I believe that covering the head for women is required ONLY during prayer in tongues in Church. It is mentioned in I Corinthians 11:5-12. In verses 17-18 of the same chapter, we see that Paul is talking about PRAYING IN CHURCH. He also says, "Pray without ceasing" (I Thessalonians 5:17). No woman can keep her head covered all the time, without ceasing! A few verses after the passage about the veil, he talks about praying in tongues (I Corinthians 14:2-6, 14-19, 26-28). The words and the expressions are almost identical in the two passages...

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When St. Paul wrote, we did practise glossolalia, though...

A reminder:

He also says, "Pray without ceasing" (I Thessalonians 5:17). No woman can keep her head covered all the time, without ceasing!

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Isn't praying in tongues a protestant interpretation? They fall into some kind of ecstacy and babble. Then they claim that they were in the ecstacy of the Holy Spirit.

Don't the Orthodox saints teach that speaking in tongues was specific to the Apostles since they didn't have the time to learn another language, which would take years. They were choosen by God to preach the Word to others in their language. And it happened during Pentecost. It was based on a specific time, for a specific goal that God had set forth.

The Apostles didn't babble. They spoke coherently, in another language, for the people to understand their preachings of the Resurrection of Christ.

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Of course. But there is also 'inner glossolalia', which is the miraculous fruit of the Holy Spirit inside a saint' s heart and can be expressed through speech...

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Apologist,

Of course. But there is also 'inner glossolalia', which is the miraculous fruit of the Holy Spirit inside a saint' s heart and can be expressed through speech...

Which saints talked in tongues? If you have more details, maybe we can continue this thread on a new topic.

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