Appropriate Modest Clothing in Church

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Olja,

The reason I stressed "Orthodox made Celtic Cross" is a lot of the Celtic crosses that are on the market are made by in the same places that make Wiccan charms, pentagrams and other such pagan items.

I was at a Renaissance Fair a few years ago with an Orthodox friend and was admiring the workmanship of some handcrafted Celtic crosses at one booth when my friend pointed to the pentagram that the jeweler was wearing as well as the large pentagram (printed very faintly in the background colors) on the jeweler's sign.

Be Orthodox, Buy Orthodox!

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Waldemar,

Thanks very much! I really like the crosses this web site offers, but I need to save up a little bit before I can get one - I would really love to!

Thank you for the info, it definitely put my mind to ease.

Wishing you a blessed Pasha!

Olja

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Anja and Daniel - thank you.

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What is appropriate and modest dress in Church. If we were invited to the White House or Buckingham Palace we would not dream for one moment to go in anything less than our best apparel. And this for a President or Queen, not Our Saviour. As Christians our clothes should always be modest, regardless whether we are male or female.

When I first went to Church in Crete I got a frightful shock, (after being used to worshipping in a monastery here), on seeing so many young women in low, low cut blouses and extremely short skirts. (My daughters told me afterwards my face was a picture, and I apparently barely raised my eyes above ground level from beginning to end of the service). Other than a very few exception the women were all bare-headed too.

As to ankle length skirts which to some seem mandatory, I recall Archbishop Nikodem of Richmond. In his last few years some loved to tease him. The mini-skirt was fashionable and they, seeking to shock him, pointed a young woman out wearing one. He quietly made plain his view that it was immodest. Then the maxi-skirt became fashionable, and remembering his previous reaction they pointed one out, expecting approval. Vladyka looked and shrugging his head, said, "Too extreme".

As a frequent visitor to Greece, I always wear a jacket to church. I also wore a jacket or light weight blazer in Southern India. Like the locals I long ago learnt to walk in the shade. Consider the Arabs, and others, who live in areas where the daytime heat is merciless. Covering up can be both modest and a comfortable response to heat as well as cold.

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Amen! /\

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Today I went to the Vespers part of the Vigil (I chant/read at my own parish's Matins) at Holy Trinity Cathedraol (OCA) here in Chicago. My priest is out of town unti late tonight, and he encourages to attend Vespers elsewhere on the rare when they are not served in our parish church.

I was there early since I wanted to have a good look at the icons (hideous! debased Italianate style). What I am going to relate happened BEFORE the service started. A young married couple walked in (could tell by the rings). They seemed to be Orthodox, as they were crossing themselves properly and venerating the icons. Both had jeans with hems that were dragging the floor, and those skimpy flip-flops. The girl's jeans were very low slung and her shirt rather short. When she went to venerate the icons almost directly in front of me, I got a rather good look at her underwear (black Victoria's Secret - name on the elastic!) and a large expanse of her back.

Another girl had on a knee-length skirt, but when she venerated the icons, you saw a very large amount of the backs of her thighs. Good reason to wear ankle-length (or almost) skirts.

I usually try (not too successfully, I'll admit) not to pay attention to this sort of thing, but as it happened before the service and was sooo distracting....I wish people would realize what their clothing can do to those around them.

I felt like I stuck out like a sore thumb...I had on a long linen skirt and a jacket, complete with scarf. There were several older women there, who were at least dressed more modestly, but no headcovering.

Theodora Elizabeth

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Post by Etienne »

I visited one Church on the island Aegina in Greece, to find on the entrance door a notice asking people only to enter if dressed modestly.

The notice outlined what was unacceptable, this included 'nudity'. I was somewhat non-plussed so asked the local police only to learn that some tourists thought it was perfectly okay to walk in and wonder around completely naked :o

That anyone could do this is beyond belief. I even took a photograph of the sign :cry:

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