WCC

[moschonisi]

ON WCC...This may be off topic and I maybe behind schedule on things, but did you all see this:

23.02.06 02:35
Assembly elects new presidents, central committee

A new body to lead the World Council of Churches (WCC) into the next decade was elected in Porto Alegre on Wednesday. Delegates at the WCC’s 9th Assembly also endorsed measures designed to strengthen youth participation in the organization’s decision-making.

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The eight WCC presidents areRev. Prof. Dr Simon Dossou, Methodist Church in Benin; Rev. Dr Soritua Nababan, Protestant Christian Batak Church (Indonesia); Rev. Dr Ofelia Ortega, Presbyterian-Reformed Church in Cuba; Dr Mary Tanner, Church of England; Rev. Dr Bernice Powell Jackson, United Church of Christ (USA); Mr John Taroanui Doom, Maòhi Protestant Church (French Polynesia); Archbishop Dr Anastasios of Tirana and All Albania, Orthodox Autocephalous Church of Albania; His Holiness Abune Paulos, Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Additional biographical information about the new WCC presidents follows:

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SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
EASTERN ORTHODOX

Archbishop Dr Anastasios of Tirana and All Albania, Orthodox Autocephalous Church of Albania

His Beatitude Archbishop Anastatios is professor emeritus of the National University of Athens and honorary member of the Academy of Athens. He was Dean of the Theological School at the University of Athens 1983-1986. From 1981 to 1990 he was the Acting Archbishop of East Africa, where he organised and developed the Orthodox Mission in East Africa. He was Moderator of the WCC’s Commission on World Mission and Evangelism 1984-1991, and is currently one of the vice-presidents of the Conference of European Churches. He has served as Primate of Albania since 1992, reconstructing the Orthodox Autocephalous Church of Albania from ruins and initiating important contributions in healthcare, development work, emergency relief, culture, ecology and peace-making.

ORIENTAL ORTHODOX

His Holiness Abune Paulos, Ethiopian Orthodox Church

His Holiness Abune Paulos is the Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, which has a membership of 40 million. He has served as a member of central committee and the Faith and Order commission, and attended the Nairobi assembly. He has participated in many international meetings, including the World Economic Forum and the World Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders at the United Nations, and has been instrumental in encouraging interfaith dialogue in Ethiopia. He has shown keen interest in youth, women’s issues and HIV/AIDS, acting as patron of the national programme on HIV/AIDS. In recognition of his outstanding contributions to the protection and welfare of refugees, he was awarded the Nansen Medal for Africa by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in 2000.

[Kollyvas]

Yeah, he's one of theirs, branch theory hierarch...
R

[moschonisi]

Yes indeed, branch theory treason...

[AndyHolland]

Prove the Archbishop ascribes to branch theory or any other heresy! It is far more heretical and against the canon to bring charges against an elder without two or three reliable witnesses!

Everything you have posted so far that the Archbishop has said before the WCC has affirmed his Orthodoxy. Note also that Orthodox do not join in joint prayers or services at these meetings, nor are they permitted to vote on matters unless all of the Orthodox agree.

The Archbishop has maintained a very careful narrow path in all of his discourse between being a pharisee (one who judges others) and a heretic (one who denies the fullness of the Incarnation including the Church). We all are called to follow the narrow path of justice and mercy and you cannot love God whom you don't see if you do not love your neighbor whom you do see!

You cannot heal the tax collector if you refuse to enter his house when invited! We do not become tax collectors and harlots when we speak to tax collectors and harlot about the wonderful love that we experience in Christ Jesus in CHURCH. So too, the heterodox when they invite us into their house, should we turn them away who are so much closer to the true vine? We are not entering their family (joint prayers), however, we are entering in dialogue in their neigborhood. It is a fine line, but aren't lost sheep worth it?

Let Jesus Christ judge others, we need to focus on his Lordship in all matters, and we cannot hide His light, including His body that is the Church, under a bushel basket before the heterodox!

andy holland
sinner

[AndyHolland]

Some things the ArchBishop has said at the WCC:

"The formation of our Assembly theme assumes the form of a prayerful petition, if you like, it is a mystical cry, which reveals a sense of profound weakness and intense expectation. It is a contemporary variation of of the prayer placed on our lips by Christ Himself:"... your kingdom come, your will be don, on earth as in heaven." It is based on the recognition that, for the transformation of the world, our human thoughts, ideas and abilities are insufficient. Yet, at the same time, it is founded on the conviction that the God in whom we hope, is not indifferent to human history. God is immediately interested and is able, through His grace, wisdom and power, to intervene and transform the entire universe. God takes the initiative, taking action and assuming the decisive role in universal events."

These statements are carefully made affirming Orthodoxy without insulting and abusing others. One does not have to hold to the branch theory to address others who have a Christian heritage and wish to follow the Gospels.

andy holland
sinner

[Kollyvas]

Prove the Archbishop ascribes to branch theory or any other heresy! It is far more heretical and against the canon to bring charges against an elder without two or three reliable witnesses!

Everything you have posted so far that the Archbishop has said before the WCC has affirmed his Orthodoxy. Note also that Orthodox do not join in joint prayers or services at these meetings, nor are they permitted to vote on matters unless all of the Orthodox agree.

The Archbishop has maintained a very careful narrow path in all of his discourse between being a pharisee (one who judges others) and a heretic (one who denies the fullness of the Incarnation including the Church). We all are called to follow the narrow path of justice and mercy and you cannot love God whom you don't see if you do not love your neighbor whom you do see!

You cannot heal the tax collector if you refuse to enter his house when invited! We do not become tax collectors and harlots when we speak to tax collectors and harlot about the wonderful love that we experience in Christ Jesus in CHURCH. So too, the heterodox when they invite us into their house, should we turn them away who are so much closer to the true vine? We are not entering their family (joint prayers), however, we are entering in dialogue in their neigborhood. It is a fine line, but aren't lost sheep worth it?

Let Jesus Christ judge others, we need to focus on his Lordship in all matters, and we cannot hide His light, including His body that is the Church, under a bushel basket before the heterodox!

andy holland
sinner

There are enough statements on the mp-wcc thread which clearly prove that this new calendarist bishop is participating in the wcc under the ecclesiological model of branch theory.

http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6137

That you have intentionally not understood doesn't absolve him. The man hasn't mentioned Orthodoxy once in his witness, and "elder" is a specific monastic term having to do with someone who has reached dispassion "apatheia." puhaloisms! LOL!
R
And, oh, CONCILIARITY is the responsibility of ALL BAPTISED AND CHRISMATED ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS--Frs. Schmemann & Meyendorff are pretty clear in that regard.

[Kollyvas]

Some things the ArchBishop has said at the WCC:

"The formation of our Assembly theme assumes the form of a prayerful petition, if you like, it is a mystical cry, which reveals a sense of profound weakness and intense expectation. It is a contemporary variation of of the prayer placed on our lips by Christ Himself:"... your kingdom come, your will be don, on earth as in heaven." It is based on the recognition that, for the transformation of the world, our human thoughts, ideas and abilities are insufficient. Yet, at the same time, it is founded on the conviction that the God in whom we hope, is not indifferent to human history. God is immediately interested and is able, through His grace, wisdom and power, to intervene and transform the entire universe. God takes the initiative, taking action and assuming the decisive role in universal events."

These statements are carefully made affirming Orthodoxy without insulting and abusing others. One does not have to hold to the branch theory to address others who have a Christian heritage and wish to follow the Gospels.

andy holland
sinner

pope john paul ii even made statements that were seemingly Orthodox in content, but NEVER did he affirm the SOLE AND SOVEREIGN VOCATION OF ORTHODOXY, like this embarassment. Show us one time where this new calendarist EMBARASSMENT has mentioned ORTHODOXY IN ANY OF HIS STATEMENTS OR AFFIRMED ORTHODOXY AS THE CHURCH at this babel going on in Brazil. Otherwise, you are simply using a big lie template in an uninformed way...
R