Do you ever do Reader's Services at home?

尼古拉前执事 · Sun 11 September 2005 9:05 pm

Just wondering if any of you do Reader's Services at home whether it be Typica, or the Reader's version of Vespers and Matins, etc.

GOCPriestMark · Post by **GOCPriestMark** » Mon 12 September 2005 4:07 pm

None of the vote choices applies to my experience which would be something closer to "Yes, we used to do them somewhat regularly before I was ordained" We have done vespers/vigil and typica. This site is very helpful:
Orthodox Liturgical Texts and Resourses
Thanks to Fr. John Whiteford.

Perhaps you have other specific questions?

Subdeacon Joseph · Sat 24 September 2005 4:21 pm

I had led reader services on Sundays for 2 six month cruises while in the Navy (I guess the ship WAS my home)....due to no orthodox priests being on board. And have had to do a couple at other times as well. Fr John Whiteford is a blessing!!!! His web page has helped me more times than I can think about. I had a real hard time trying to figure out what to due during Easter and Holy Week though. I was extremly worried about doing something wrong, but in the end, I put all that aside and just did what I thought was right.

尼古拉前执事 · Sat 24 September 2005 4:58 pm

We currently do Reader's Services here.

I used to use the version we have in the Cafe's Resources section at http://euphrosynoscafe.com/resources/index.html but now I usually use HTM's great Horologion and when we have had a choir, I give them Holy Trinity Monastary's Unabbreviated Horologion. The two do match up fairly well, althought there are some differences.

In addition to the Horologion, I use Holy Apostles Convent's The Evangelion (Gospel Lectionary) and The Apostolos (Epistle Lectionary), the Jordanville Prayer Book and a Clergy Liturgy Book for dismisals.

Грешник · Post by **Грешник** » Sat 24 September 2005 5:04 pm

I was given a blessing to do Reader's services for now in my home although I am trying to work out a way to get to the Mission parish in CO. I am also trying to find a way to learn the 8 Liturgical tomes so that while doing the Typpika I do not have to plainchant the whole thing and can actually do the service as it was meant to be done (at least in part).

尼古拉前执事 · Sat 24 September 2005 5:13 pm

Here is a good way to learn the Sunday Octoechos in Znameny style chant:

https://securehost7.hrwebservices.net/~ ... cts_id=773

After years of work, we are pleased to announce completion of The Sunday Octoechos (the Sunday Book of Eight Tones) in English.

This book can be used for the Church Choir, or as a hymnal to better follow the services, or as an aid to private prayer at home.

Trans. Cuiba, Hieromonk German
Hymn transliteration Simon, Fr. Dcn. Mitrophan
Church of the Nativity of Christ (Old Rite)
Hardcover, 6" X 9", smyth sewn (for better durability and lay-flat capability), with marker ribons in the binding.

WHAT IS NEW AND DIFFERENT IN THIS BOOK?

THE SUNDAY OCTOECHOS includes Two Sections

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* I. The text of the Orthodox services, according to the pre-17th century books of the Old Rite, for Small and Great Vespers, Compline, Midnight Service, Matins and the Sunday Beatitudes according to the Eight Tones.

* II. Includes all Canon Hymns (Heirmosi) in Znamenny Chant- a liturgical chant dating back to the 10th-11th Century. Now with the ancient notes "unlocked," these hymns are presented in English with BOTH the ancient "hook" notation -AND- "bar-and-staff notation." Znamenny Chant has been used without disruption in the Russian Orthodox Church for almost 1,000 years.

ALSO- with the purchase of the book a CD set of two (2) instructional CD's will accompany the book, to assist in learning the chant in English, at no extra cost.

GOCPriestMark · Post by **GOCPriestMark** » Sat 24 September 2005 5:47 pm

Deacon Nikolai wrote:
. . . and a Clergy Liturgy Book for dismisals.

What we were using before I was ordained was not a dismissal exactly, since only priests and bishops give a dimissal. The choir does not say "father bless" even tho' you are a 'father deacon'. You would not use "May Christ our true God Who rose from the dead, through the intecessions of His most pure Mother, . . ." but something more like "Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers, of the Most pure Holy Lady Theotokos, of the saints of the day, and of the patron saint of the church, and of all the saints O Lord Jesus Christ our God have mercy on us and save us." (Or something in that style as I am not looking at any of my books.) Similarly, at the end of "Our Father.." you wouldn't give the priest's exclaimation, but if you say anything say "Through the prayers of our holy fathers have mercy on us and save us. Amen". This may be substituted for the priest's exclaimations in most places. Just be extremely careful not to usurp to yourself those things that are only done by a priest or bishop. Erring on the side of caution is best.