Archbishop Christodoulos: Modern Greek & Deaconesses

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Archbishop Christodoulos: Modern Greek & Deaconesses

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CHURCH OF GREECE NEWS
http://www.saintedwardbrotherhood.org/1 ... erd11.html

ARCHBISHOP CHRISTODOULOS of Athens has announced that henceforth the Gospel is to be read in Modern Greek as well as in the traditional koine, which is little understood by the young and by the less well educated, so that the faithful may participate better in the Liturgy. This is seen as a pilot scheme, and other dioceses of the Church of Greece may follow suit, but when two years ago Metropolitan Apostolos of Kilkis introduced some Modern Greek into the services, he was forced to cancel this decision because of criticisms raised by some of the faithful.

The Holy Synod of the Church of Greece voted against a proposed meeting of Archbishop Christodoulos with Pope John Paul II. Of 62 Metropolitans who voted, only 15 were in favour of such a meeting, the majority feeling that the conditions for such a meeting were not favourable, although it is reported that this decision rather annoyed the Archbishop himself.

The Greek Church also considered the matter of the ordination of deaconesses. Such an order was known in the Early Church but fell into disuse. The Church of Greece decided that certain high-ranking nuns might be ordained to that order at the discretion of their Bishops.

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In one hand the Gospel Lecture in the vernacular language, that all the people can understand, is a non issue.
In the other, there are some problems.
What is in the eyes of Archbishop Christodoulos a deaconnesse?
The Deacon's wife?
An acolyte (as some blessed by St. Nektarios of Egina)?
A laical ministery blessed for social assistence?
OR AN ORDAINED FEMALE PRIEST IN THE RANK OF DEACON?
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Giorgos wrote:

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In one hand the Gospel Lecture in the vernacular language, that all the people can understand, is a non issue.
In the other, there are some problems.
What is in the eyes of Archbishop Christodoulos a deaconnesse?
The Deacon's wife?
An acolyte (as some blessed by St. Nektarios of Egina)?
A laical ministery blessed for social assistence?
OR AN ORDAINED FEMALE PRIEST IN THE RANK OF DEACON?
Giorgos

Actually Saint Nectarius of Aegina had an actual deaconness at his time who was in one of his monasteries. The deaconness is a historical factor of the Church which all of Orthodoxy have started ignoring or just forgot of. (WORLD/TRADIOTIONALIST Orthodoxy) The title of the deacon's wife has come in the past couple of decades. And it wasn't an acolyte, she was a nun. And a deaconness is to come to assistance to a Bishop or her Monastery's Priest as a deacon, but has not 100% same diakonia as an actual deacon does. She has the blessing to help out the priest if needed holding the holy Cup or help out at Baptisms. (As said somewhere else in the forum, Deaconnesses were to hold a towel to hide the woman being baptized, since they didn't where any clothes in the early church.) Of course, there is no Subdeaconness. And there are many Saints who were deaconnesses, such as Saint Irene of Chrysovalantou, Saint Phoebe of Rome, Saint Macrina Sister of Saint Basil the Great and many more! I think His Beatitude Archbishop Christodoulus is tring to return to the Church something it was missing for over a century now, which many alleged extreme Traditionalists weren't able to do. His ideal isn't anything Unorthodox.

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romiosini wrote:

[I think His Beatitude Archbishop Christodoulus is tring to return to the Church something it was missing for over a century now, which many alleged extreme Traditionalists weren't able to do. His ideal isn't anything Unorthodox.

I agree.

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TomS wrote:
romiosini wrote:

[I think His Beatitude Archbishop Christodoulus is tring to return to the Church something it was missing for over a century now, which many alleged extreme Traditionalists weren't able to do. His ideal isn't anything Unorthodox.

I agree.

Man, gotta love that one! eh Tom? LOL :lol:

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Why?

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But what we have to look at is why deaconesses were retired. If there is a Orthodox Theological need in a convent then I have no problem with it. If it is done for novelty's sake or for the cause of feminism, as it appears was done with the female Reader in the in GOA, then I am not.

I also have no issue with the Gospel being read in the vernacular.

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Oops, it appears Justin posted a link to an article on this before. My apologies: http://euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3159

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