GIORGIOS' PROFILE PROPOSAL FOR CONSIDERATION

[Giorgos]

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DEAR FRIENDS AND BROTHERS IN CHRIST,
The best for Us, simple users of this Forum will be if ALL OF US,in the first place ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATORS AND MODERATORS, just out of curiosity, inform Us if ALL ARE ORTHODOX BAPTIZED, WICH IS HIS MARITAL STATUS, WHOSE HAS BEEN IS PARISHES, BTW.OR RESIGN HIS POSITION.
Who has ears....
IN THE LOVE OF CHRIST,
GIORGOS

[尼古拉前执事]

Giorgios, the info on the moderators can be found on the About page.

[Giorgos]

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Dear Diacon Fr. Nicholas

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                              Do you think that is really in this way?

Excuse me for tell you a little story, and for my bad English...

A LITTLE STORY
There are many years ago in a little eastern country whose name was Euphrosynia, one group of orthodox faithful founded a Forum,and the many orthodox of this country and even the orthodox of other countries were interested in that.
Fruitful and sincere was the work, and the most profitable of all for the foreigners was the publication of the debats in form of placards ( in that time the Internet was unknown). With the time some of the foreigners and many countrymen ( named “euphrosynards”, were reunited in the reading of the placards and all was good.
But one jealously evil fairy with her bad arts semed the discord. Ancient and new members of the Forum initiate one dispute and the men argue about who of him was more genuine, true, veritable, pious orthodox. Some of them established The Truest Euphrosynal Orthodox Cult, competing whit the old Euphrosynal Orthodox Cult (Outside of Euphrosynia). The members of The Truest split, and some of them founded The Genuinelly Truest Cult of Euphrosynal Orthodox, and searching a canonical link with others engaged in conversations with The Oldest Muslim of Milanoland and the Great Guru of Austinia.
Many of the euphrosynard and the foreigners were most and most discouraged at this. Some of the disapointed were fleeing from time to time. But other remain. For these was
worst of all the suspicious thinking that the debates were arranged, and that the characters play one role.
But one day, a new personage arrived, many of the observers thinking that he was other of the character that them suspected that live only in the imagination of the placard writers,were silent. The new arrived “names” himself “Sylvester” and took at full speed some relevance. Why? Nobody knows. The mistery was more and more profound.
One of the ancient readers ("Gregorios") put a bill on a tree, asking who this “Sylvester” was. The answer at this was dubious and stubborn.
The same reader put a new bill in the same tree, asking some clarifications.
The new answer was, as the first, a bit confused.
But the insistent "Gregorios", that was a man of some memory, and whith a modest detectivescal gift, was remebering that there are some time, the same “Sylvester” (but with other name) was not a member of his Euprhrosynal Orthodox Cult but a member of the Vaticinian Latin Cult. This “Sylvester” assisted from time to time at the Euphrosynian parish of "Gregorios", asking for commune saying that he was Orthodox, bur unable to probe this, the Priest refused. This “Sylvester” invokes his monastic vocation, and search his clerical situation. Finally he leaves the Parish where he was treating of be a “recognized member”, whith the company of a young lady (this a "Euphrosynal" parishioner) charmed by him, and who lives whith him unmarried. He has revealed himself be a farceman, mimes a stranger in his own country, a novitiate monastic, a baptized orthodox... and now a teacher of faith.
The memoristic reader afraid of this, send one and another placards to the trees of the wood, nearest to the Great Forum tree. And with the time, and God’s aide…..
The memoristic "Gregorios" was bashed and a loud voice was ear, “ Do not make waves, and all we will live happy for ever”.
THIS IS THE END OF THIS SAD AND LITTLE STORY

Now, we all have our many sins to weep, but “if a blind guides another blind…"
WITH LOVE,
GIORGOS

[Justin Kissel]

Giorgos,

Please, no more riddles? Just say that which you want to say. I will answer your questions if you wish, but it seems obvious to me that you want someone (ie. other than me) to answer these particular questions. Accusing someone in such a roundabout way is perhaps laudable, perhaps cautious, or perhaps investigatory. In any event, I don't have a clue who or what you are talking about, I'm not sure how many others do either. Please, speak plainly?

[Giorgos]

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Dear Justin,
Brother and Friend In Christ Kyrios and Redemptor.
Rejoice in the Lord!
RE: The Little Story
1) Is only an allegorical tale.If the one and only one right person read this, at the understanding that his veritable character is known, he must resign at his aim to become teacher of others.
2) I whish not name or indicate thath person clearly. We all are sinners, and I the first. The problem is not our personal sins but the bizarre purpose of mime another personality. This is clearly an psychological problem, and also a paradoxically one of healing methods, the projection of our aims to become exemplary at our eyes.
3) When the Forum established te change of names (“St. Cyprian”, “Blessed Hermann” and so on) I write that the best is the use of our civil names, parishes and “jurisdictions”. All this is verificable and the priest cannot appear as layman, the Bishops as priest, and the layman as Bishops. And all this eliminate the use of many characters and the arrangements of debats between one or two readers, playing as in the movies, “the good cop and the bad cop”.
4) When I submited my registration in the Forum, the ROCOR or the Cyprianite Synod were considered “Traditional Churches”. Now the lunatic fringe of the hyper-orthodox in the search not of the Church that saves but in the search of a Church worthy of them, has relegated both churches at the backwaters of ecumenism, modernism and heresy, in an unmoderated run thath is guided by blind guides.
5) Who are we for judge the aims of others?
I only react when a “vagante” spirit, that was ever in the middle of bogus orthodox “Little churches” , has appeared here.
At the reading of “The Little Story” this spirit knows that he is known.

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                                     Our Lord who is Truth  will dismantle all the lies.
                               IN THE LOVE OF CHRIST,
                                                                                      GIORGOS

ps. Contact me if you wish.Excuse again my bad english.

[Joshua F]

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5) Who are we for judge the aims of others?

This being the case, how do you justify judging so-called "vagants", or the use of perjorative language against anyone?

Your reasoning is reflexively self-indicting. I do not mean to be rude, but the main tension in this forum seems to be between those who are judging people for "judging" and those who are trying to contribute constructively to whatever discussions are taking place.

If we mistrust the sincerity of others we eliminate the possibility of constructive debate. Let's not make that mistake.

Please forgive me if I misunderstand you or offend.

[Giorgos]

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DEAR IN CHRIST JOSHUA,
I CITE YOUR WORDS:

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                           giorgos wrote: 

5) Who are we for judge the aims of others?

This being the case, how do you justify judging so-called "vagants", or the use of perjorative language against anyone?

WELL MY FRIEND, AND WHY NOT WITH THE WORDS "Blind" OR "Bogus" TOO?
This is a Debate?, and when I search for the debate about the reasons fort the attack on Vladyka Alexander the "debate" is unfruitful?
Came on!!
Perhaps "self-indicting" is not pejorative? LOL
AH, AH, AH
Please not more "double-talk", "neo-speak" and "politically-correct" language.
If one person is incapable to defend himself, or plays the martyred is other thing.
Besides, "vagante" is not one accusation is a EVIDENCE.
Sadly, the words "bogus" and "vagante" put in nerves many "hypercritics" of fresh orthodoxy, (this is not derogatory for converts, will God Bless them).(1)
And excuse me,please: I am not buyer nor seller of red herrings.
YOURS,
Giorgos
(1) I wish only remember here the words of the late Fr. Seraphim of Platina "Converts have Zeal but lacks patience; craddle orthodox have patience but lacks zeal. The Royal Path is zeal tempered with patience".
PS. Dear Joshua, you are not aware of the background of all these last posting from me. If you wish, contact me.