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Is Zographou (Mount Athos) under the Bulgarian Church (not the small Cyprian group or the ROAC group, but the "state Church," for lack of a better term)? I ask because I'm having a hard time understanding why a certain hierarch, known for his rather strict ecclesiology, recently visited there.

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Justin,

All of the large monasterys (except for Esphigmenou of course) are Greek and under the EP.

I believe Gregory knew a few monks there from his days when he was studying iconography on Mt. Athos, but I could be wrong.

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Justin Kissel wrote:

Is Zographou (Mount Athos) under the Bulgarian Church (not the small Cyprian group or the ROAC group, but the "state Church," for lack of a better term)? I ask because I'm having a hard time understanding why a certain hierarch, known for his rather strict ecclesiology, recently visited there.

Technically, OOD is not fully correct. All the 19 Monasteries are under the Ecumenical Patriarchate but that doesn't mean they are all greek. Zographou is a bulgarian one. Hilandar, (the one that burned down around a year ago) is a serbian one. There are a lot of Romanian Sketes. And a couple of Arabic ones too. Saint Panteleimon is the Russian Monastery of Mount Athos. But obviously there are greeks in every Monastery. Communication is never a problem on Mount Athos.

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Unless you are Greek, you really can't fully understand Orthodoxy.

(at least that's what the Greeks say)

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romiosini wrote:
Justin Kissel wrote:

Is Zographou (Mount Athos) under the Bulgarian Church (not the small Cyprian group or the ROAC group, but the "state Church," for lack of a better term)? I ask because I'm having a hard time understanding why a certain hierarch, known for his rather strict ecclesiology, recently visited there.

Technically, OOD is not fully correct. All the 19 Monasteries are under the Ecumenical Patriarchate but that doesn't mean they are all greek. Zographou is a bulgarian one. Hilandar, (the one that burned down around a year ago) is a serbian one. There are a lot of Romanian Sketes. And a couple of Arabic ones too. Saint Panteleimon is the Russian Monastery of Mount Athos. But obviously there are greeks in every Monastery. Communication is never a problem on Mount Athos.

I think OOD meant that all Monasteries are under the control of the EP save for Esphigmenou, even if they are Serbian, Bulgarian, etc.

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Justin Kissel wrote:

Is Zographou (Mount Athos) under the Bulgarian Church (not the small Cyprian group or the ROAC group, but the "state Church," for lack of a better term)? I ask because I'm having a hard time understanding why a certain hierarch, known for his rather strict ecclesiology, recently visited there.

It is stranger.

Maybe have been some monks that supported to the dissident Bulgarian Church who lifted Patriarch Pimen in parallel with the Patriarch Maxim. The Patriarch Pimen's followers accused Patriarch Maxim and his followers as sergiants. In a moment the dissidents were recognized by the government and then they repented and Patriarch Pimen gives up his dignity of Patriarch and everybody returned under Maxim. This group orders to Metropolitan Mihailo of Montenegro (nacionalist church) and one bishop from Italy.

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I have know more . Bishop Inokentii was successor of Patriarch Pimen of Bulgaria. That is to say those "dissident" or "alternative church" still exists in Bulgaria.

http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/no-eas ... 7/catid_29

http://www.hrea.org/lists/hr-headlines/ ... 01776.html

http://www.bgnewsnet.com/story.php?lang ... bb10fefbc9

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