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Homeschooling

As I mentioned in

Re: Living within our means: no TV, smartphone, or fancy clo -... school for children of like-minded souls, then to have any children go there. Barbara, I think that you do not really understand the concept of homeschooling. First, not one spouse, but both, must decide together, because they have to support each other in the venture. Second, a collective home ...

by NadirGP - Tue 15 October 2013 4:26 pm

Homeschooling your children today is a MUST and not just an alternative.
First, I have to say we lived 15 kms from the nearest town and we lived in a 40-acre property on the other side of a river, (which means at times it flooded and there was no way to cross it) thus stuck at home for days. The school bus stop, initially, was 5 kilometres from our home, so our first boy had to ride his bike to catch the bus every day.

My wife and I home schooled our three children from grade 3 for our first son, grade 2 for our second boy and from grade 1 for our daughter. That was a tough decision we made in 1988. We didn’t know much about homeschooling then. As for myself, being an Italian, I knew even less because homeschooling in Italy was unknown, and for the few people who know of it, it is a very wild subject matter.
The reasons for homeschooling our three children, initially, were because they were learning very little at school and that little learned was inconsequential. Not only that, but our first boy was beaten a few times on the school bus by other boys. The children on that bus were wild and the bus driver did nothing to stop this bullying. Not a few times, I had to accompany my son all the way to school and only then, because of my presence on the bus, the boys’ behaviour changed for the better.

It was only when our second boy was in his second grade that I realized how bad the state school system was. He could hardly read or write a word and when asked, “What did you do today at school, son?”

“I forget…” was always our boy’s’ reply. In addition, I went to talk with the school principal and teachers. I asked them to show me the curriculum. We argued over the actual learning hours and I deemed recreational time was much more than the learning time. The curriculum was not any better, completely void of moral values let alone God.

To make a long story short, our three children completed their education at home. We never asked permission for this.

Incidentally, all learning was out of books, conversation or hands-on practical work. We did not have TV, both from preference, and because we were off-grid. We hardly knew what a computer is, let alone using one.

Our first son went to the university and studied the ancient languages, Greek, Latin, Hebrew, Syriac and Aramaic. He joined a religious order and today, after six more years of theological study, he is an ordained Catholic Priest. Our second boy, after he got he matriculated through TAFE became an electrician. Our daughter went to the university to nursing study and is today a graduate registered nurse.

"We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails."

So Jesus was saying to those Ιουδαιους [Judeans] who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

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Great post, Nadir.

My son, whom I homeschooled through kindergarten (with one year in third grade at a private Armenian school), went to the local community college at age 15 and earned his AA degree in Spanish but took courses in computer science and calculus. He spent one year at a state university and now works as an IT specialist. With his degree in Spanish, he was sent to Mexico and other Hispanic countries to work on computers. He also went to Vietnam and other countries.

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[Continuation]

Thoughts about Homeschooling
Priest Chad Williams

People are generally called intelligent through a wrong use of this word. The intelligent are not those who have studied the sayings and writings of the wise men of old, but those whose soul is intelligent, who can judge what is good and what evil; they avoid what is evil and harms the soul and intelligently care for and practice what is good and profits the soul, greatly thanking God. It is these alone who should properly be called intelligent. — Saint Anthony the Great Early Fathers from the Philokalia, Faber & Faber, 1973, page 21

From the beginning of our marriage and during courtship, my wife and I discussed our concerns about the breakdown in marriage and family life. We scrutinized our own childhood experiences with our parents and brothers and sisters, their subsequent marriages and our own fears, values and commitments. We were most concerned that our family be God-centered. We saw as specific threats to our family a value system that requires maximizing material successes. We also saw the public schools as a potential threat to our home life—the long hours, the bus rides, the values clarification, the atheism and the peer groups. We thought we would like to educate the children at home. This meant, of course, more time at home for both of us and some material and financial sacrifices. We have been home schooling now for nearly thirteen years, since the birth of our first child.

http://www.pravmir.com/thoughts-about-homeschooling/

Orthodox Home Schooling By Sarah Loft

A nationally growing home school' movement is an attractive alternative for Orthodox Christian parents. We have been home educating our eight-year-old daughter since kindergarten and have found it a rewarding experience. I would like to share some of the positive benefits of this experience as well as provide some concrete resources and information for others who would like so considering home-based education.

http://oca.org/the-hub/the-church-on-cu ... -schooling

Also here: St Raphael Orthodox homeschooling
http://www.raphaelschool.org/

To be continued

So Jesus was saying to those Ιουδαιους [Judeans] who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

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OK, it's true, I know little about homeschooling.
However ! I see it as completely necessary for the society to survive.

So, I want to understand it better.

Nadir's post was very informative. I can imagine how awful that was on the school bus.
It's weird, I have started to shudden when I see the big yellow things pass by ; I never previously
felt like that. Clearly something is wrong somewhere there.

Are you saying that there was MORE recreation time allotted for the students than actual classes ?
Really, it's gotten that bad ?

I will read the excerpts from article by a Fr Chad Williams as soon as I have time.

This area is vital to help along with prayer at the least.

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Barbara wrote:

OK, it's true, I know little about homeschooling.
However ! I see it as completely necessary for the society to survive.

So, I want to understand it better.

Nadir's post was very informative. I can imagine how awful that was on the school bus.
It's weird, I have started to shudden when I see the big yellow things pass by ; I never previously
felt like that. Clearly something is wrong somewhere there.

Are you saying that there was MORE recreation time allotted for the students than actual classes ?
Really, it's gotten that bad ?

I will read the excerpts from article by a Fr Chad Williams as soon as I have time.

This area is vital to help along with prayer at the least.

Barbara,

Yes, the pupils in the school [in the far north of Queensland, anyway] spent more time in entertainment that actual learning. Actually, teachers and educators claim that entertainment is part of learning process for a child.

Everybody who is incapable of learning has taken to teaching.

- Oscar Wilde

So Jesus was saying to those Ιουδαιους [Judeans] who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

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A Chine of heart

Orthodox Homeschooling

Through a series of trials and errors I have come to a realization, and I will make a bold statement; there is no such thing as an Orthodox homeschool curriculum, nor will there ever be. There are no set courses that constitute a school of Orthodoxy. What I do have is the life of the Church, which is the Life of Christ in the Spirit. It takes a radical shift in my thinking to accept and trust that the "mind of Christ", what is often called Orthodox phronema is not a subject to be taught in a classroom. However, it is the most important pursuit I can encourage as a so called educator. And that begs the question, "How can I, a mother in training myself, teach my ultimate desire, that my children have, or better yet, attain the mind of Christ?" The answer is so counter culture, so educationally unorthodox, so against the norm, that at times I want to abandon this faith and escape back into my systematic, scholastic religious world. I want to check boxes and make schedules, and teach facts, and be certain, and rely on ideology. I want a curriculum. If only I were still Catholic. They seem to have this education thing down. Man, Orthodoxy is lacking, its behind the times, it is not meeting my family's needs. These are my fears, these are my shameful frustrations.

http://achimeofhearts.blogspot.com.au/2 ... art-1.html

But really, how do I do this? [on comments from mothers, such as: I “will never be able yo to do homeschooling.”]

http://achimeofhearts.blogspot.com.au/2 ... -this.html

So Jesus was saying to those Ιουδαιους [Judeans] who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

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Growing up, I did public school, private school, and home schooling. From K-5 grade I was homeschooled, from 6-8th grade I went to a private school, from Freshman-Sophmore year of High School I went to public school, then for Junior year and last Senior year that I'm in right now, I did independent study. I find homeschooling and independent study more appealing because there is no limit on how much I could work. I can graduate early if I work hard enough. And that is happening; I'm graduating sometime before the end of this year, about a semester earlier than my peers.

"'Blessed are the peacemakers' For those are peacemakers in themselves who, in conquering and subjecting to reason all the motions of their souls and having their carnal desires tamed, have become in themselves a Kingdom of God."-St. Augustine of Hippo (Confessions)

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