Is Moscow Displeased with ROCOR - How MP REALLY thinks

[Barbara]

Here is the post to which I referred on Page 4 of the "Strike One Up for Rocor" thread.
This is the voice of an MP "priest" who vents a volcano of pent-up RAGE at Rocor for what?
Standing up for God all the long difficult decades of the XX century ?
You can tell the man is heavily demonic, which is like a symbol for ALL of the MP upper echelons !

No wonder the True Orthodox have wisely stayed away from the MP's siren call, which is no other than the Devil
wearing a Greek-mermaid outfit and crooning to homesick or sentimental Russians in the emigration especially in the
wealthy U.S.

A RIVER of JEALOUSY is the hallmark of this 'priest''s tirade.

It blows the lid off ALL the patronizing behavior of MP hierarchs to their "brothers" in Adopted-Rocor.
Those same hierarchs and many clergy of the MP are seething with ill-contained HATRED each time they
meet a Rocor-MP representative.

At least the MP has given that big tip so that maybe Rocor-MP will realize its error and break away.

General Vlasov was doing the best he could under difficult circumstances. Who was better of the 2 ?
Anyone then or now could see that in this unpleasant comparison, hitler was less evil and the Germans allowed SOME religion.

Whereas the Soviets blamed all their evil deeds against Churches and Monasteries on Nazis as a cover up
for the Soviet atheist assault on them.
This was the case with the monumental and priceless New Jerusalem complex near today's Istra, west of Moscow.
It was this excuse given to Poland when tens of thousands of the best Polish officers were killed at Katyn [see upcoming video],
that 'nazis did it'.

Classic SOCIOPATHIC LYING and blaming the opposite party for what that person or country did himself.

By the way this 'priest' [a KGB agent doing a provocation to test the waters of popular opinion today, over 5 years
after the aggressive takeover of Rocor by the MP -?
Expert observer Konstantin Preobrazhensky seems to think this is at least a possiblity. Though it is not clear exactly
how the murky system works.

My ideas :
Are they trying to find out how WEAK Rocor -MP is? If Rocor-MP's hierarchy and clergy meekly let this go by
or this type of highly incendiary commentary, maybe it is done-for; a doormat, never to rise again or threaten the MP's
tight grasp on it.

On the other hand, if Rocor-MP either makes a complaint or keeps reiterating the challenges made - no matter how guarded the
language used in the epistles or letters - then maybe Rocor-MP has some fight left in it and must be handled very delicately, is probably
how the Kremlin thinks.

Obviously it's better to be considered to have some power and 'teeth' than to be seen as powerless, a supine springboard for the KGB and
its actors in cassocks to infiltrate American hots spots like Silicon Valley and other centers of technology throughout the country for espionage
and recruitment of disgruntled Americans - of which there are many today ! ]

To sum up :

IS --- BEYOND --- OUTRAGE !

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"I was disgusted to hear of your “noble” priest’s mouthing of dirty White Guard propaganda. I could vomit! This is a good example of why many of us have issues with the ROCOR being included again in the Orthodox Church. Ask that prince what WORK his family did to allow them to live in luxury… in palaces, with titles, and with balls and festivals. Ask him why his fathers lived in laziness whilst mine slaved in fields and mines, and why his lived off us. Ask him where the money that WE produced went! More than likely, it went to his grandfathers and their lazy families… and their prostitutes and perversions.

I’m so sick already of how American, Australian, and Canadian clergy judge us. They want to tell us about our Lenin, and about what we “must” do to be “good Orthodox Russians”. To them, we are forever SOVIETS! They must be quiet! Silence them! These criminals and prostitutes of Hitler betrayed our Russia. We should spit on them still! Vlasov was and is a traitor! We’re sick of them; they set fire to Russia, and, then, ran away to America and France, telling us what to do. Filthy! I almost hate them. They helped to destroy our dear Soviet Union, so, now, we all suffer under all this new criminal régime, but those who live abroad praise it. I’m sorry, but I do despise them. I hope we’ll soon have our USSR again, god willing!

Today, we have poverty, people without homes, dirty filthy rich parasites, whores, gays, drugs trade, pornography, sexualised children, racists, and all manner of dirty and deathly crime… thank you, ROCOR whites! Thank you! Before, we had a good life and peace. Now, you “corrected” this. Thanks to you! I’m Soviet forever!"

[Barbara]

P.S. Could it be a typo ?
Or is it deliberate that the Communist 'priest' - ahem -
did not capitalze God when he wrote "god willing" -??

[Barbara]

Further, it was not ROCOR which caused the supposed 'fall of Communism'.

The STUPID Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, this time of year - late December- 1979 brought about a huge
collapse of the economy as well as morale when the Red Army's military might was beaten up
by tough tribesmen in sandals with handmade weapons, even, at the very beginning of that war !

The drug trade started at THAT time. Why else did Russia want to OCCUPY Afghanistan for almost a decade ?

Minerals and various rare natural deposits, even emeralds, were a big draw, but the fact was
that little of this could be mined or extracted for many decades in the future.
Neither did socialistic, backward Soviet Russia HAVE that specialized equipment I am sure.

Moscow went the easy way: make money off of selling drugs to Europe. Meanwhile their population, PLUS
the soldiers in Afghanistan, got hooked on all sorts of unspeakably awful things.

Then in 2001, America went in and DID the SAME THING, for the SAME PURPOSE !

This caused an exponential rise in the amount of drug addiction especially in Southern Russia where the
drug lines snaked north from Kabul.
Probably this rampant drug addiction exists all over Russia by now.

So - did Rocor have anything to do with pushing America to invade Afghanistan??

Of course this war and the Iraq one starting 2 years later were the handiwork of American neo-cons - a loathsome group
of sheer traitors to the U.S.

This agent should blame those politicians, academics, think tank figureheads and others in the US government who squarely deserve
the blame.

Not to seeth with fury, blaming all the ills of Western-influenced Russian society
on a White Russian emigre CHURCH who were occupied with exposing the MP's deep spiritual flaws like Sergianism.

The arguments made by this creep are ludicrous !

[Revnitel]

What does all this really matter? So Russians are politically at odds with each other? From my Orthodox standpoint, the fact this keeps coming up is the problem. I don't care about ROCOR, the MP, the OCA or any other world Orthodox Russian body. This has nothing to do with being Orthodox. I am an American, a convert, and I am a Greek Old Calendarist.

[Barbara]

That explains it if you are Greek Old Calendar.

As we used to say in college when a friend didn't quite grasp a joke from the way someone described
an amusing scene or conversation and looked blank :

"YOU HAD TO BE THERE !"

Everyone would laugh. But here, it's quite serious.

[Maria]

That explains it if you are Greek Old Calendar.

As we used to say in college when a friend didn't quite grasp a joke from the way someone described
an amusing scene or conversation and looked blank :

"YOU HAD TO BE THERE !"

Everyone would laugh. But here, it's quite serious.

Yes, I remember those old college days. By the time you explained the scene to a person who was not there, the joke still was not funny, while those who had been there were holding their sides and doubling over in laughter.

[Barbara]

That's it, Maria !!