Brother Nathaniel

[GOCTheophan]

What do you mean step back a bit?

Maybe withdraw from self-promotion, place himself under monastic obediance- isnt he supposed to be a novice after all?

Theophan.

[ANGELA]

Yes. You are right. I have been thinking of this as well. I personally don't like some pictures that he puts as making fun of others. Like at the moment he has a tongue pierced in the latest issue. I am personally put off by that. I do however admire his persistance in going in the street and preaching about our Lord.

I am a Greek Orthodox and I really do wish some of our Church members go out and preach about our Orthodoxy in the street.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

[Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse]

That is why in the Orthodox Church converts are not allowed to become Bishops according to the canons.

Theophan.

Isn't everyone a convert at baptism...?

And hello again Theophan

In Him
SB

[GOCTheophan]

That is why in the Orthodox Church converts are not allowed to become Bishops according to the canons.

Theophan.

Isn't everyone a convert at baptism...?

And hello again Theophan

In Him
SB

Benjamin you might to be happy under a Bishop who was brought up in a more or less faustian but semi-Lutheran maybe still mind-set but personally I feel reassurded having a Greek Orthodox Bishop who's mind has breathed the pure air of Orthodox piety from his earliest days. This was all discussed on Paradosis where Vladimir K and Serge Rust put forward the Orthodox postition with a clarity and nobility I am not capable of.

Yes you are right we are all born in sin from fallen Adam and need to be remade in Christ by His Grace. There is so no such thing as a "naturally Orthodox people". I am not a slavophile. Indeed slavophilism is a dangerous error, maybe even a heresy, one which like Stravoclasm has infected the Russian Synod in Exile for a very long time- two reasons maybe why it has fallen into Sergianism and false ecumenism.

I am surprised to see you here. Pleasantly so

Theophan.

[尼古拉前执事]

Dear Theophan, Vladimir was wrong, the word used for one who cannot be a bishop is neophyste, which means one new in the faith, not a convert as Vladimir supposed. Saint Paul clarifies this elsewhere when he said one should be int he Faith for 3 years before being ordained. Of course some of our saints were made a bishop much sooner, like Saint Athanasios the Great, but this was a general rule and of course exceptions are allowed. Remember all of the early Christians were converts.

[Anastasios]

Benjamin you might to be happy under a Bishop who was brought up in a more or less faustian but semi-Lutheran maybe still mind-set but personally I feel reassurded having a Greek Orthodox Bishop who's mind has breathed the pure air of Orthodox piety from his earliest days.

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is not supported by the Church. Thankfully, it doesn't matter one bit how long one has been Orthodox; what matters is the degree to which he has submitted his will to the Church. I have met so-called "lifelong" Orthodox that don't know a clue about the Church.

This was all discussed on Paradosis where Vladimir K and Serge Rust put forward the Orthodox postition with a clarity and nobility I am not capable of.

Please. They showed their intense ignorance, bias, ethnocentrism, and revealed themselves to be close to heresy. I honestly can't believe you found their erroneous and ignorant "arguments" convincing in the least.

One thing that the Cyprianites do well is ordain convert bishops. We should follow their example. They have secured some quite erudite and pious bishops in this manner.

Anastasios

[Euthymios]

I would like to know a little about Brother Nathaniel. I have read his church news. I still don't understand what's going on as I am Greek Orthodox and know that something big is happenning in December in Russia.

Can anyone please fill me in in simple terms and also is Brother Nathaniel doing the right thing? I know he preaches about Christ in the streets which is a good thing. Sorry I don't mean to offend anyone, as I know his been banned from this site, but I would just like to know whether I'm doing the right thing by reading his church news bulletin.

Many thanks
God Bless+++

First of all, why do people refer to Natheniel as "brother"? He us not a brother. He was a novice. He is no longer a novice. He is a nutt. I can't believe anyone even takes him seriously. Just go to youtube and watch him dance on the streets to rock music. The guy is clearly demon-influenced.

As for Dormition Skete, I can only give my own testimony. I have known them since 1993. They have always been loving and friendly to me. Vladia-Gregory payed for my chiropractic expenses when I was visiting there, and never asked for one penney back. He confesses true canonical Orthodoxy. Those who attack him due so because they don't love the Church. They love the world and the spirit of compromise.