Bogo,
Of course that would mean a passionate kiss, not a kiss of friendship. There are people in our synod I know who have been excommunicated for 6 months and more.
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Anastasios
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Excommunicated for french kissing? how unpastoral. :ohvey:
Our culture is ruined and it produces some bad fruit in almost everyone. Trullo canon 102 says the prescriptions of canons must be applied as a medicine for healing. Cutting a teenager off from communion for six months for kissing is A REALLY BAD MOVE.
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Actually I just thought of this. Do you mean excommunication in the real sense, as in EPISCOPAL AND PUBLIC or do you mean his/her spiritual father imposed this as a penance? The latter is acceptable in my book becuase a SF's decrees are by nature pastorally minded. If your bishop did it, especially publicly, I think that is unpastoral.
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OrthodoxyOrDeath
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Being excommunicated in the Orthodox Church dos not have the same meaning as in the Latin system. It simply means you cannot go to communion.
Anastasios,
I would hate to characterize it as a "penance", it was more for their own protection (therefore it was certainly pastoral). Receiving Holy Communion is very serious matter and being repentant sometimes also means going for a time without doing whatever you repented of. When Christ saved the prostitute from being stoned, He told her, "Go and sin no more".
NEWS:
The Times, London, 8 May, 2004
"Members of the United Methodist Church in America have voted to maintain its traditional teaching against homosexuality. Delegates at the Church's general conference in Pittsburgh voted 527-423 against a proposal that would have acknowledged officially that Methodists disagree on the compatibility of homosexual practice with Christian teaching."
While this appears to be a hopeful step, the closeness of the vote probably means this 'proposition' will come back another year, and another until the 'modernisers' get their way............
Sadly.
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