Statement

[Maria]

» Sun 29 September 2013 11:34 am

Dear Nadir,
The locked thread you referenced here in Controversial Politics was closed because two members were engaged in a heated debate. Had that debate remained calm, there would have been no reason to lock it.
I hope this answers your questions.
In Christ,
Maria
Assistant Moderator

Dear Maria,
Perhaps, I making too much out of this. However, because of your gentle response, I feel I own you a reply in kind.
You wrote: because two members were engaged in a heated debate. Had that debate remained calm, there would have been no reason to lock it.
I did not see it on that way. I only considered one of the two main opponents a bit too wordy for my liking. That is all.

It is not a good idea to make comments on a thread that has been closed. Once the topic is closed, unless there is a mod note to the contrary, members are free to start a new discussion.

[Maria]

By the way, a thread is like a marriage.

It can produce child threads.

Or it can die like a divorce in bitter rancor. In that case, it is better to lock it.

[Barbara]

I didn't see any thing for a few days, so missed your Statement, Nadir.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU !
I also feel stifled and decided to leave off that topic.
But it is a most pressing subject which I would prefer to be able to share views with you and others here
FREELY.
But I felt squashed right after I started in on that subject immediately upon arrival.

I was trying to be polite and adjust to the others here. Some may NOT be informed, and too much
into the mass media - imposed perceptions of that topic, and others too.

So, we are dealing with various levels of awareness here, a fact which could not have been clear from the
first impression.

If you want to open up threads and inform us, PLEASE do go ahead. One can never learn TOO much, that is my opinion.

I think you are smart to NOT go into Catholic v. Protestant ; Catholic v. Orthodox debates.

You will see in your own way, at your own pace, how you feel about True Orthodoxy.
Too much forcing sometimes happens which repel the Catholic, especially, from consideration of fleeing to
a True Orthodox Church.

I know that's a much-underadmitted problem !
I believe in stating the truth forthrightly.

Hence good idea to not go into specific debates. These are readily available in the Archives ; exhaustively.

I think it's tiring for members, too, to go back over the same stuff.

What is appreciated is new, refreshing ideas or perspectives.

You will find your way, as you are obviously intelligent from what we can read so far.

Please DO start up new threads about the international jewry problem. Unless Moderators don't want.
The threads would have to be only here in these "protected" forums, though. It's a shame it has to be that way.

[NadirGP]

I didn't see any thing for a few days, so missed your Statement, Nadir.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU !
I also feel stifled and decided to leave off that topic.
But it is a most pressing subject which I would prefer to be able to share views with you and others here
FREELY.
But I felt squashed right after I started in on that subject immediately upon arrival.

I was trying to be polite and adjust to the others here. Some may NOT be informed, and too much
into the mass media - imposed perceptions of that topic, and others too.

So, we are dealing with various levels of awareness here, a fact which could not have been clear from the
first impression.

If you want to open up threads and inform us, PLEASE do go ahead. One can never learn TOO much, that is my opinion.

I think you are smart to NOT go into Catholic v. Protestant ; Catholic v. Orthodox debates.

You will see in your own way, at your own pace, how you feel about True Orthodoxy.
Too much forcing sometimes happens which repel the Catholic, especially, from consideration of fleeing to
a True Orthodox Church.

Barbara,
Had not been for your comment on my “statement,” I would have never respond to this thread again. Yes, your very friendly and outspoken written words made me to change my mind in regard to continue to be part or not of this forum.
For clarification, also in joining this forum, it never occurred to me that I would start debating my position as a Catholic versus Orthodox members, or whatever their belief is. I assumed, implicitly, that I was in for a friendly and informal exchange of informative ideas about Orthodoxy and its history.

I didn't seeI know that's a much-underadmitted problem !
I believe in stating the truth forthrightly.

Hence good idea to not go into specific debates. These are readily available in the Archives ; exhaustively.

I think it's tiring for members, too, to go back over the same stuff.

What is appreciated is new, refreshing ideas or perspectives.

You will find your way, as you are obviously intelligent from what we can read so far.

Please DO start up new threads about the international jewry problem. Unless Moderators don't want.
The threads would have to be only here in these "protected" forums, though. It's a shame it has to be that way.

I am not sure I want to pursue this thread, about the international Jewry problem, as you defined it. This is not because for “fear of the Jews,” or for lack of knowledge; but because there is plenty of documentation on the Internet already. Anyone who wants to inform him/herself on the subject has only to leave the box [TV] and follow what the alternative media has to say on that regard. There are quite few informative books too – the choice is great for anybody with hunger for the truth.
Thank you anyway,
Nadir

[Maria]

Nadir,

I am glad that you have decided to return, and I look forward to your posts and new threads.

For example, since you are in Australia, it would be awesome to learn about the different types of plants, animals, and foods you have down under.

Are there any True Orthodox in Australia that you have met?

[Lydia]

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

• Voltaire

[joasia]

NadirGP wrote:

For clarification, also in joining this forum, it never occurred to me that I would start debating my position as a Catholic versus Orthodox members, or whatever their belief is. I assumed, implicitly, that I was in for a friendly and informal exchange of informative ideas about Orthodoxy and its history.

You can be in a "friendly and informal exchange of informative ideas about Orthodoxy and its history" with us. But, you haven't asked any questions or brought up any points to discuss this. All you talk about is world politics. So, right there, you are being insincere. This forum is strictly based on Orthodox views of the world around us. So, I don't understand your confusion. Your initial post sounded like you were interested in Orthodox views. And there have been no debates, only questions. That's normal when we have a newbie.

Being in the RC, you come to an Orthodox forum, so it's natural that we would ask you about your position. It seems like you are coming here for something else. Or maybe you have had different experiences with other "Orthodox" forums.

You do realize that the RC is not in communion with the True Orthodox Church? And the RC are heretic. So do you want to learn about the truth of Orthodoxy or don't you?

I really don't understand what you're gripping about. All you do is complain about this forum. You came here, we didn't come to you. This forum existed a long time before you joined. Are we supposed to conform to your views? What are you looking for???

I really want to help you, but if you don't give a fig about Orthodoxy, then why are you here????

The other members will be polite and accommodating, but I don't mince words. Do you care to learn about Orthodoxy or not?

BTW. As you can see, I don't sugar-coat things.