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Re: Stones In The Abyss

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anastasios wrote:
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How many more decades before you are all forced to beome janissaries in a restored caliphate? Either way your schism will end. LOL!
R

I fail to see how that is funny. In fact, I think it is sick to wish certain death and rape on the suffering Coptic people.

Anastasios

IS that how they taught you to reason and keep things in context at Crestwood?! My remarks weren't aimed at disparaging the Coptic people, and I take umbrage that you infer that to me, but, rather, at pointing out the position of craven witness and illegitimacy the agitator you empowered has in addressing "Byzantine/Chalcedonian/Dyophysite Orthodoxy" and his quasi-historical (HYSTERICAL) agitprop. (I AM THE ONE WHO CONSISTENTLY KEEPS UP A THREAD--from which you're curiously absent--DEDICATED TO THE islamic CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST THE COPTIC PEOPLE AND I AM THE ONE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THEIR LOT!--HOW DARE YOU?!) I speak in I-R-O-N-Y scathingly to greet him with his reality and not his delusions, but OF COURSE, your sensibilities weren't as troubled with his ignorant denunciations of Chalcedonian positions. You're a GOC under +Pavlos?! What?! Seriously, next time keep context with my sympathies for the Non Chalcedonians and my lack of taking this agitator seriously. It's not hard.
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Lest any future claptrap unsettle some dust:
I WISH FOR THE LIBERATION OF ALL CHRISTIANS UNDER islamic despotism, THEIR ENFRANCHISEMENT, REPARATIONS, RESTORATION OF PROPERTIES AND TERRITORIES AND INCLUSION INTO THE ONE HOLY ORTHODOX CHURCH. I speak disparagingly of those who glorify their subjection and their histories and circumstances under islamic oppression, who have the audacity to fault the empire for anything, those recalcitrants who hate Orthodoxy but wish only to elevate their prides nurtured in dhimmitude while spitting at the hand of Orthodox brotherhood. Such as these who cherish their islamic taskmasters are well-accomodated by them. THIS IS WHAT THEY CHOOSE. THESE ARE NOT THE COPTIC PEOPLE, WHOM I LOVE & HONOUR, but they may include elements amongst them.

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TomS wrote:
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...which does not speak for all of Orthodoxy?!
R

And just who does speak for all Orthodoxy?

Um, ever heard of the phronema?!
R

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Kollyvas wrote:
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...which does not speak for all of Orthodoxy?!
R

And just who does speak for all Orthodoxy?

Um, ever heard of the phronema?!
R

Sure. If there are 10 Orthodox Bishops in a room, each from a different "jurisdiction", which one speaks with it?

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The Holy Spirit

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Actually, the voice is ONE with the Fathers since Pentecost and so that is where the phronema is found, in that charismtic kerygma of the Holy Spirit, which represents not just Patristic Consensus but testifies of and imparts holiness.
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Actually, the voice is ONE with the Fathers since Pentecost and so that is where the phronema is found, in that charismtic kerygma of the Holy Spirit, which represents not just Patristic Consensus but testifies of and imparts holiness.
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So, let me ask you a question. If there are 10 Orthodox Bishops in a room, each from a different "jurisdiction", how do you know which one speaks with it?

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Perhaps none.

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Perhaps none. The one who speaks with the voice of the Fathers which the Church witnesses in her Canons, Theology, Litrugics, Holiness. It's not a matter of jurisdiction--it's a matter of charisma. How do you know when someone has the charisma? When his life and witness are affirmed by the witness of the Saints and the Testament of the Church since Pentecost, when he agrees with that. Yes, that happens both inside and outside of "resistance."
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Armenian Katholikos Speaks Tacitly: All SEVEN Councils...

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(A good interview which further illustrates how Chalcedonians are seen as "Orthodox," and shows my "lies" and "lack of knowledge" to be rationale truth.--R)

http://www.orthodoxunity.org/article04.html

...We discussed the old question of conciliarity - the ecumenical councils. Of course, during our discussions we reiterated our acceptance of the first three ecumenical councils and that we hold fast to that. The [Eastern Orthodox] family accepts seven ecumenical councils. And they attach a particular importance to the seven councils. As far as they are concerns, you cannot divide these councils, they all go together. However, what we said, is the following: historically, theologically, doctrinally or in whatever perspective you want to look at them, you cannot put all these councils in one basket; you cannot deal with each of these council on the same level. They are theologically and qualitatively quite different from each other. Even the ecumenicity of the first three councils has much more weight than the other councils. Therefore, we tried to make a clear distinction between the first three and the ones that followed them. For us, the crux, the substance of Christian faith is in the first three ecumenical councils. The four councils that followed them just reinterpreted and re-elucidated the theological teachings of the first three. In fact when you look at these councils closely, you realize that they did not have anything substantial over the earlier teachings of the councils. In view of this, our position was firm on accepting the first three as the most fundamental and conclusive of all councils. ...

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