THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

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Subdeacon Jerjis
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Post by Subdeacon Jerjis »

Thank you Dr Magerovsky for your brief (too brief)
insights into Stalin and his designs on the "church."

For those who wish to learn more about Stalin and his
MP invention, seeVladimir Moss' "Between the hammer
and the anvil "athttp://www.romanitas.ru/eng/index.htm.
This will round out Dr Magerovsky's insights.

Sbn Jerjis/Dr Alajaji

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The Whore upon many waters refers to corporate sin.

"Christ Jesus came into the World (Cosmos) to save sinners of whom I am chief. "

When "we" get together and sin as a people, terrible things happen. Corporate sins are built on the seven hilled city of the seven deadly sins. There is one whore upon many waters - and the mystery of its name is available in Holy Scripture to those who search the Scripture.

What happens on the inside of us eventually comes out of us, and causes all sorts of problems. Take for example America. Its Constitutional name is E'Pluribus Unum, Novus Ordo Seclorem. Literally naming itself a blasphemous name!

It 'called fire down from heaven,' and literally named it "trinity"- It destroyed a city on the feast of the Transfiguration and one two days later on the largest Christian church in Southeast Asia. Now it kills 3,000 Holy Innocents every day in abortion mills.

It seems insane, but when you view history through the Scripture, history unfolds that way and this wacky world is insane. These whores are one whore. Our evil actions, words and deeds combine in a devil's brew to create sinful nations and organizations - Legion. 'Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the People imagine a vain thing; to break the bonds and chords that bind us to the Lord and to His Christ..." Bonds - love of God, chords love of neighbor. Burnt offerning and whole burnt offering.

The people didn't set out to create a wicked nation. But wickedness prevailed when we loved our stomachs more than our God. Yet the whore is also the Roman empire. Yet the Roman empire was eventually converted, so there is hope even for these organizations to bow to God so "that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ." Holy Russia can become Holy again, masonic America can become Christian - love conquers all!

When we view these monsters, they are larger than life. But when we embrace Jesus, and ask forgiveness for all our sins, then we realize that God will get us through no matter how bad it gets. And that is the only thing that can keep us sane. Happy is the nation whose God is the Lord (the Church).

Love God and one another - even our enemies and those who hate us and spitefully use us. Bless and do not curse. But don't trust the whore or join with it. Rather, seek reconciliation with God in Church.

Know that "Christ Jesus came into the Universe to save sinners of whom I am chief" - so I cannot judge or hate even the most wicked people. Let God judge. If we allow the material world - the pigs to go, then we can search for spiritual refuge and answer God's call to come out of the whore. 'Give them anything they want just save your soul.'

We need to forgive and passively rake burning coals over the heads of our enemies if they will not accept our love (it will drive them nuts) - we Christians have the weapon of peace and the trophy of invincible.

Yours in Christ Jesus,

andy - pious twaddler, grandiose paranoid crankydox.

P.S. There is no technical need for www (wordwide web) on addresses. w is similar to the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Yet the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness cannot comprehend it - we win because Jesus won.

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good stuff

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I am too lazy. what is the name?

Nathanael

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Post by AndyHolland »

Lazy is sinful :)

So is revealing a mystery
:ohvey:

Jesus is the teacher not me.

Holy Scripture Teaches:

“Which things also we speak not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”

In love then, please search the Scriptures - but "I" would recommend to search first for faith and love in faith and love that it is what you should come to know.

in Christ Jesus,

andy - the pious twaddler, crankydox grandiose paranoid, chief of sinners

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We are climbing Jacob's ladder

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"And Jacob dreamed and behold a ladder set up on earth and the top
reached to heaven and the angels of God ascending and descending
upon it. And the Lord stood above it and said, The land wherein thou
liest to thee will I give it, and to thy seed."

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
AMEN.

My dearly beloved Orthodox Christians, Jacob was at a critical
point when had this dream. He had just obtained his lawful
birthright and now his double-crossing brother Esau sought to kill
him. Jacob had to flee to Syria.

Jacob was alone and friendless.

In the late winter of 1917, the Tzar, the Protector of the Orthodox
Church and Her Teachings, was also alone and friendless.

I hope that the holy Tzar Nicholas II thought of this story on his
lonely night in hell on March 15, 1917. The wretched MP designates
our holy Nicholas II with only the title "passion bearer." But we
who embrace the +ROCOR canonizations cleave to our beloved Tzar
Nicholas as "saint."

"Every round goes higher, higher,
Soldiers of the cross."

"Every where around me is cowardice and base betrayal," said our
Tzar the morning of his dark night of the soul that fateful
night of March 15. And I suppose it was a "dark night" for Jacob
also the night of his dream.

Jacob was made to see "something beyond" with regard to his plight
and the isolation that he felt. What was that? Nothing less than
"much ado" with regard to his bleak circumstances:

"Behold angels of heaven ascending and descending upon a ladder
reaching from earth to heaven and the Lord stood above it and
said:"The land whereon thou liest.."

Though Jacob was friendless, his affairs were of great interest to
all of heaven. Everybody was "busy about Jacob" and his affairs of
monumental import!

And we too have "busyings" going on in heaven about our affairs of
monumental import. For everyone that is in the holy Orthodox Church
has their Lord standing above their ladder saying to each and every
one: "The land wheron thou liest.."

Unto Him Be Glory Both Now And Ever And Unto Ages Of Ages. AMEN!

Nathanael
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"If you love Him, why not serve Him?
If you love Him, why not serve Him?
If you love Him, why not serve Him?
Soldiers of the cross."
"We are climbing Jacob's Ladder"
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SouthernOrthodox wrote:

I am most certain you can justify that by the Holy Fathers writings in one of the Cannons I am sure, but until that time, you may want to re-acquaint yourself (as we all should) with the basic tenants of what being Orthodox is all about. Take out the "Russian" if that is what you where born as or converted to and you will see the non-senseical ramblings you are writing.

Indeed. If anyone can demonstrate the "heresy" of the Moscow patriarchate; let them do so. If not, let us remember that the authority of validly ordained priests and bishops, as long as they do not teach heresy, is absolute. The Moscow Patriarchate does not teach heresy, and shows no signs of beginning to do so. So to the schismatics, the modern Donatists, I answer with the Blessed Augustine, "Verily I would not have believed in the Holy Gospel had not the authority of the Catholic Church so moved me."

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I think that you should read more about the question of the MP.

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