Putin thru the years

[Cyprian]

However, Cyprian, you don't understand about the Muslims. They deserve to be there ; after the Tatars and all the other Muslims were living in their locations for ages.

Barbara, I never said anything or suggested that Muslims should be expelled or not allowed to live within the Russian Federation. I specifically criticized Putin for venerating the Koran and participating in the dedication of a mosque.

Russia should be example for the West in having done a good job of treating the Muslim population relatively well.

There is no need for Putin (if he were a genuine Orthodox Christian, which he isn't) to participate in the dedication of mosques, publicly citing and publicly venerating the blasphemous Koran, simply to exhibit a basic tolerance of a Muslim minority population within the RF.

But since the time of the Russian Federation, Muslims are allowed to pray, live their lives - and they DO ! This is a separate subject, but Putin is doing the RIGHT thing to show respect to Muslims. They are, I think, 15 % of the population. That is significant. If YOU were the Russian Leader, you would probably do likewise. It's easy to criticize from afar...

Don't presume to tell me that I don't understand Muslims, and what I would do if I was hypothetically ruler of Russia (which is a fanciful notion). Speak for yourself.

I would never participate in the dedication of a mosque, and I would never place my lips on that filthy book the Koran!

You are the one who is obviously confused about Islam. Apparently, living amongst them for a time, you somehow managed to develop an unhealthy and unbalanced sympathy for them.

You are the one who is confused. Putin does not respect the Muslims, as you erroneously assume. A genuine Christian, who sincerely loves the Muslims, would never allow them to think that their blasphemous book the Koran was holy, and that their "prophet" Mohammed was a true prophet.

A sincere and loving Christian leader would not pander to the Muslims like Putin does, flattering them to get them to fight and die in his immoral and unjust war in Ukraine, but would exhibit true Christian traits, attracting the Muslims to the Christian faith.

But Putin does nothing to attract the Muslims to the Orthodox Faith, because he is a fake and phony representative of Christianity, an ecumenist and warmonger, who allows the Muslims to think their religion is equally as valid as Christianity.

No wonder the barbarian Muslims like Putin. They admire him because he wages war and conquers, like they have in their long and bloody history.

No, I'm not the one confused about the Muslims!

[Barbara]

I think, on the contrary, that Putin genuinely appreciates them. More I will have to write later, but maybe he recognizes that Christians and Muslims have to fight the same enemy.

I don't recommend YOU watch this, but if anyone is interested, take a look at the [small] English subtitles to understand how not just Iranians but many other Muslims think today. They are highly sophisticated, understanding what the key problems are.

Americans have barely begun to wake up to the reality. They certainly can learn some things from older civilizations and peoples !

The Muslim holy cities of Makkah [Iranian pronunciation Mekkeh] and Medina are occupied by the Saudis [subtitles here write ~"ahl-i- Saud", which means 'family of the Sauds'] They want to free their two holiest cities. Plus of course, Jerusalem [site of the 3rd holiest mosque in Islam, Masjid al-Aqsa] and all of Palestine from similar occupiers.

It's believed by the Shias that the 12th Imam went into occultation [nothing to do with the occult, it just means 'hidden' in this context].
He will return and lead the Muslims to victory against the enemies.
Today is the birthday of the 12th Imam, as the poster writes below.
Imam Zaman or Sahib i Zaman are other terms for the 12th Imam.

Which are NOT the Christians but the ...s.

All Muslims also believe that Jesus will return before the final Mahdi arrives. The prophecy is that he will appear atop a particular minaret of the Ommayad Mosque in Damascus. I saw both that same minaret and the place where the 12th Imam was believed to have gone into hiding in Iraq. It's an underground shrine in the city of Samarra

https://x.com/Soureh_design2/status/2018700061178315134

Famous minaret in Samarra [pronounced SAHM-ar-ah] not related to the shrine, though - just for atmosphere. {There is also a Russian city, Samara, by the way}

[Barbara]

Cyprian, I'll have to answer the other thread later.
But for the moment, let's look at practical situations instead of theory or blanket generalizations about all leaders today are from the you know where.

In this clip, we see Putin in action, not making general speeches but actually getting things done, or trying to :

"Putin: Look here and listen to what I’m saying.
If this doesn’t interest you, you’re free to leave."

https://x.com/rinalu_/status/2019037046766232049

Comment :
Kind of strangely phrased but one can grasp what she means [seems to be a Serb, Sofija Zlatanova]

"When President Vladimir Putin says, “I am not fully qualified,” and instructs his team to handle an issue promptly, he is acknowledging limits and delegating to those with expertise. That form of leadership—trusting specialists rather than personal authority—has parallels outside politics as well...

In contrast, in some one-party systems across Eastern Europe and elsewhere, commissions or ministers are sometimes appointed without domain expertise—placing, for example, non-cultural professionals in cultural roles. This can function as a mechanism of control rather than competence.

Leadership grounded in humility recognizes that authority is strengthened—not weakened—by deferring to knowledge. Acknowledging what one does not know, and empowering those who do, is often what sustains effective governance over time."

"Govt: Case was denied because there was no victim.

Putin: Come see me later. We'll find the victims.

Putin is the best president in the world"

"Be sure of that many many Europeans envy you having such a leader. Only the brainwashed dorsn't get it"[ - a Swede]

"The foundations of education and good manners.
Best president ever..!" [ - a Frenchman, and the French are usually good judges of such qualities, at least in the past"