Let's be honest about ROCOR

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Re: Let's be honest about ROCOR

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Please let us know the answers to these important questions !
In short, keep the thread going so we can see. I am afraid it will lapse and I will miss the correct replies.

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Jean-Serge wrote: Fri 28 November 2025 10:57 am
haralampopoulosjc wrote: Thu 17 July 2025 7:44 pm

Saint John of San Francisco concelebrated with and communed New Calendarists from the Greek Archdiocese. He did this all the way up until his death.

I won't mention Fr. Seraphim Rose because this site seems to be 50/50 on whether or not he was a saint.

Metropolitan Saint Anthony Khrapovitsky with his cell attendant and EP Bishop in an Anglican procession, Britain, 1925. In celebration of the anniversary of the First Ecumenical Council
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My point being that the ROCOR wasn't as walled off from World Orthodoxy as some people claim.

In 1965, from my quick Wikipedia search, the caholic archbishop of Marseille was not called Marcel but Marc-Armand Lallier : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Armand_Lallier

Where do you sour sources come from? A magazine, a review, an old website ?

This is the source for the photographs: https://lamerkhav.livejournal.com/387025.html

The photo of Archbishop Leonty is actually him at Vatican 2, where the ROCOR sent him as an observer.

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Re: Let's be honest about ROCOR

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Davyd97 wrote: Sun 7 December 2025 10:49 pm

ROCOR is ran by humans. There are going to be mistakes made. St. John famously created a group that went into schism.

Which St John?

Fr Joseph Suaidan (Suaiden, same guy)

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Something that gets overlooked, is the presence of ROCOR parishes in North Africa in the 20th century, demonstrating that the synod was not in communion with Patriarchate of Alexandria:

"In 1951, Archbishop Panteleimon (Rudyk) was sent to Tunisia, in order to organise parishes in North Africa, where, after World War II, there was a sufficiently large Russian “colony”. However, this appointment was made by the ROCOR without a prior agreement with the Patriarchate of Alexandria. Therefore, the Patriarch of Alexandria Christopher II forbade his clergy to concelebrate with those priests of the ROCOR who were subordinated to Archbishop Panteleimon (Rudyk). In the context of his North African service, Vladyka Panteleimon often had to serve as a priest because of the illness of the igumen who was responsible."

Saint John of Shanghai even consecrated the Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church in Tunis in 1956, when he was serving as the Archbishop of Western Europe.

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