Fr Mikhail easing up on ecumenism?

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Fr Mikhail easing up on ecumenism?

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Wasn't Fr Mikhail someone who preached against Ecumenism? I'm confused why he recommends you can attend mass (because it's with your RC grandma) and pray the Our Father, yet you can't participate in the other liturgical prayers of the Roman Catholics.

I recall a couple of years ago, that Fr Joseph had mentioned that for those who preach against Ecumenism and find out the truth about world orthodoxy, have two paths, either they separate and become Orthodox Christians or they capitulate and ease up on "anti-ecumenism" and perhaps even defend it.
I'm also recalling Fr Peter of his lack of response to Fr Jonathan's indifference to Ecumenism.

The video is from a Sbdc Nektarios post. I wasn't sure how to post the video so that it would play here rather than requiring to be downloaded.

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It's the path any "fighting from within" group will eventually have to take. I wrote about it here on the forum before but if you look at the history of the Roman Catholic church, there were plenty of groups who were trying to do the "fighting from within" stuff. The Galicians, people who were against the Counter-Reformation, etc.

What happened to all of them is that they either got condemned as heretics and persecuted, or they ended up capitulating to Rome and became irrelevant. If you also read about how the 2007 "union' (or takeover as I like to call it) occurred, people were panicking and saying "well how are we going to concelebrate with New Calendarists and be in communion with OCA, how will that work?!" and so on.

So they just did it. They went into communion with the MP, acted like it wasn't a big deal, and for most people, they said "oh, well they didn't make a big fuss out of it, so maybe we were overreacting."

The truth is that these people were primed to accept Ecumenism years ago. "Fighting from within" is a controlled opposition and the Ecumenist hierarchs want to keep these people around. Fr. Peter or others will give these speeches about why Ecumenism is terrible... at events hosted by the GOARCH where Elphidoros is sitting right in the front row.

Fr. Mikhail admitted in a video that he told he was to be made a priest after having only been in the ROCOR-MP for 6 months, and he came from low church Protestantism and by his own admission "didn't understand the priesthood... (due) to not having a great catechism", in other words, he knew nothing and they knew he would do whatever they told him to.

Fr. Methodius in Michigan talks about how one of the unfortunate things about Orthodoxy (though more prevalent in the WO) is that weak men who would never hold any worldly power can be promoted up the ranks really quickly, and serve as yes men to Bishops who have less than pure intentions.

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Sorry, about which Fr Mikhail does the thread concern ?

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Barbara wrote: Sun 16 March 2025 7:07 pm

Sorry, about which Fr Mikhail does the thread concern ?

he has a youtube channel "Living Orthodox."

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NektariosLopez wrote: Sat 15 March 2025 10:03 pm

The video is from a Sbdc Nektarios post. I wasn't sure how to post the video so that it would play here rather than requiring to be downloaded.

Give me the link; I'll play with it and figure it out. I am trying to figure out how to make the video feature work with other sources besides Youtube.

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Suaidan wrote: Mon 17 March 2025 9:06 pm

Give me the link; I'll play with it and figure it out. I am trying to figure out how to make the video feature work with other sources besides Youtube.

Unfortunately, it's one of those "stories" or "reels" so it was a temporary video. Looks like it's gone.

@SubdeaconNektarios would you be able to give us the video timestamp? I'm referring to the original post at the top.

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NektariosLopez wrote: Sat 15 March 2025 10:03 pm

Wasn't Fr Mikhail someone who preached against Ecumenism? I'm confused why he recommends you can attend mass (because it's with your RC grandma) and pray the Our Father, yet you can't participate in the other liturgical prayers of the Roman Catholics.

I recall a couple of years ago, that Fr Joseph had mentioned that for those who preach against Ecumenism and find out the truth about world orthodoxy, have two paths, either they separate and become Orthodox Christians or they capitulate and ease up on "anti-ecumenism" and perhaps even defend it.
I'm also recalling Fr Peter of his lack of response to Fr Jonathan's indifference to Ecumenism.

The video is from a Sbdc Nektarios post. I wasn't sure how to post the video so that it would play here rather than requiring to be downloaded.

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“A little leaven leavens the whole lump.” — Galatians 5:9
“He who is not with Me is against Me.” — Matthew 12:30

The problem isn't just Fr. Mikhail's backpedaling — it's the entire ideology that thinks we can talk about heresy like it's a policy, not poison.

Recommending attendance at the papal mass for the sake of "family unity" is already apostasy in motion. Would St. Maximos have told someone to attend a Monothelite liturgy with their cousin because it was polite?

No — because unity with Christ is not maintained by betraying Christ.

The Catacomb Church already gave the verdict:

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“He who preaches Orthodoxy, even if isolated, is of the Church. He who communes with heresy, even if synodally protected, is outside.”
— Ust-Kut Council, 1937

Fr. Mikhail and many like him have inherited a dangerous cocktail: Western convertism mixed with a bureaucratic tolerance of heresy. That’s what comes of being ordained within six months by ROCOR-MP — a jurisdiction spiritually euthanized in 2007.

No catechism. No spiritual struggle. Just a clerical suit and a YouTube channel.

The true Orthodox path isn't nuance. It’s confession under fire. And that’s why the True Church isn’t made up of seminar lectures — it’s made up of caves, martyrdom, exile, and Eucharists served in hiding.

So, let them quote "Love your neighbor" as a cover for syncretism.

We’ll stand with the confessors.

“Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering.”
— Hebrews 10:23

Lazarus Arise! For You Have Been Ressurected!

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