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ROCOR-Andronik new rules of receptions

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ROCOR Andronik (also includes the bishops Sophrony and Andrei Erastov) seems to be adjusting his policy of receiving people from the Moscow Patriarchate.

Current policy is : confession and communion

New policy would be:

  • chrismation for those who were properly baptised with a triple immersion
  • baptism for the ones who did not receive a proper baptism

Those who entered without going through this process will not have a corrective chrismation or baptism.

Some points look unclear to me:

  • what about people coming from other world orthodox jurisdictions
  • how will react the other churches in communion with ROCOR Andronik : Serbian True Orthodox Church (Akakie) and the group of priest of Omsk who commemorate Akakie and support explicitely the fact that the Moscow Patriarchate has grace in its mystery.

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I don't know that the last line is still correct

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The decree refers to "Those Who Come from the Moscow Patriarchate or Other Churches of World Orthodoxy"

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You are right. A decree was published on December 16th, 2024, valid for ROCOR Andronik outside Russia.
https://auroca.org/%d1%83%d0%ba%d0%b0%d ... %bd%d0%be/

Decree of the Council of Bishops of the Diaspora District of ROCA on the Rules for the Reception into our Church of Those Who Come from the Moscow Patriarchate or Other Churches of World Orthodoxy.

In the Creed we confess “one baptism for the remission of sins.” The sacrament of baptism cannot be repeated. But, according to the teaching of the Holy Fathers, the valid and salvific sacraments are performed only in the Church. In heretical and schismatic groups there can be no valid sacraments.

Nevertheless, the Church from ancient times allowed the reception of certain heretics and schismatics without a new baptism for the sake of oikonomia, i.e., out of pastoral leniency, if this could facilitate their conversion from error to the true Church.

At the same time, the pastors of the Church paid attention to the manner of performing baptism in this heretical group. The sacraments of the Church have both a visible side and a spiritual, grace-filled side, which can be perceived only with the eyes of faith. Although baptism performed outside the Church lacks the spiritual side of the sacrament, if outwardly the baptism was performed correctly, according to the rules of the Church, then the Holy Fathers allowed the baptized in this way to be received without another baptism.

Depending on the circumstances, the Church may change the rules for reception of those who have fallen away from her, if this can serve for spiritual benefit. In previous decades, ROCA received parishioners of the MP through confession and communion. However, times are changing. The MP increasingly deviates from the true Church and moves towards complete apostasy. Also, at the same time, the attitude towards the MP among our clergy and laity is changing. There is a need to introduce stricter rules for reception.

In view of these circumstances, the Bishops of the Diaspora District of ROCA have made the following decision on the rules for receiving into our Church those who have been baptised in the Moscow Patriarchate or other churches of World Orthodoxy:

If the baptism was performed in three immersions, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, we must perform only chrismation, according to the Book of Needs (“The rite of anointing with myrrh…”)
If the baptism was performed by affusion or sprinkling, then full baptism and chrismation must be performed.
It goes without saying that this applies only to those who will join our Church in the future, not to those who are already members of our Church.

Only in special cases, with the permission of the bishop, in the spirit of oikonomia, is it acceptable to receive parishioners of the MP into our Church, as before, through confession and communion.

1/14 Dec. 2024 / Commemoration of St. Philaret of New York

+Archbishop Andronik

+Bishop Andrei

I am wondering what they meant by " Also, at the same time, the attitude towards the MP among our clergy and laity is changing. "

Is this related to what they wrote in they previous message :

Often, those who come to our services from the MP do not understand the difference between our Church and the MP. We must explain to such people that it is unacceptable for anyone to take communion with us, and then go to the church of the Moscow Patriarchate and commune there. There is a need to introduce stricter rules for reception from MP.

https://auroca.org/%d0%b0%d1%80%d1%85%d ... 3%d0%be-2/

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Jean-Serge wrote: Fri 27 December 2024 6:34 pm

I am wondering what they meant by " Also, at the same time, the attitude towards the MP among our clergy and laity is changing. "

Is this related to what they wrote in they previous message :

Often, those who come to our services from the MP do not understand the difference between our Church and the MP. We must explain to such people that it is unacceptable for anyone to take communion with us, and then go to the church of the Moscow Patriarchate and commune there. There is a need to introduce stricter rules for reception from MP.

https://auroca.org/%d0%b0%d1%80%d1%85%d ... 3%d0%be-2/

It seems like a healthy development to me.

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I think so, too.

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