Stylite Nous wrote: ↑Thu 24 October 2024 8:32 pmShe is a liberal in ROCOR-MP who thinks we're in a post-Patristic era when women can become clergy. All her videos are trash. Avoid.
I think YouTube only gave me this “random” recommendation because of the title 
“Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." -St Luke 12:32
Okay...
Sr. Vassa is nuts. I won't say “practically” leftist, she's an open leftist. I didn't even know she was ROCOR. The fact that she is allowed to teach after all she said and was merely told to tone it down is...it's proof positive that BASED ROCOR(-MP) is heretical to the very top.
Of course ROCOR-MP will continue justifying everything. The truth is that orthobros keep insisting ROCOR-MP is “based” and not in the WCC, etc. while completely ignoring the fact that ROCOR-MP is under MP. Not adjacent to, not in communion with (as if that would be okay), but under. If the MP is in the WCC, ROCOR-MP is in the WCC. If the MP proclaims heresy, ROCOR-MP has proclaimed it. It's like claiming the foreign policy of the USA is not that of Nebraska.
The Sister Vassa rabbit hole goes very deep... We have a parishioner in ROAC that goes to Vladyka's parish named Vitaly who has both met and spoken to her on many occasions... There's a lot of very strange stuff she's said.
Her father was Fr. George Larin, who only recently reposed and was the priest at the Pokrov Church in Nyack NY. He was a Protopope if I recall correctly and the KGB even tried to kill him, but he eventually became a proponent of the Anschluss. I "met" him once however I don't really know if I can call it a true meeting. We drove by the church in Nyack and he was sitting on his front porch (his house is right across the street) and waved at us and exchanged some brief words.
She (according to Vitaly) doesn't even live in a monastery/convent, so I'm not necessarily sure how she's still a novice... It appears to be her "playing nun" more than anything. There's a story (which to my knowledge has been confirmed) where she encouraged a man who was struggling with SSA to embrace it and he later got married to another dude. There are the strangely sexual posts on her Facebook where she talks about her personal trainer...
I don't bring these things up to state "wow look at her she is a sinner!" -- because obviously we all are -- and heresy is more important than anything; however I bring these up, and because it is the opinion of Vitaly, that she might not be in the right mental state and could have some sort of illness. I rarely talk about her because even for WO standards she would be considered "low hanging fruit", and if she is mentally ill, then it'd also be picking on a sick person.
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
THANK YOU for your observations about this [to me] enigma.
I couldn't understand WHY she is like that, but I figured she had come around to only lecturing on normal subjects in order to appease the hierarchy.
Still, the way-too-lenient Met Hilarion [Kapral] is gone, so maybe they can finally take action to do whatever is appropriate.
She is PRO-Sergianist and a REAL Leftist ? OH NO ! That is so un-Rocor !
Imagine what the blessed Met Philaret would have said about Nun Vassa if he was deeply grieved and put out over the Archbishop Averky letting Copts use a chapel at Jordanville - !
The MP tried to assassinate her father, Fr George Larin ? Really, wow.
Can you explain more what this "Based Rocor" means ? I still don't get that pop term, though I know it was kindly explained to me earlier on here. It didn't really sink in as it sounds so strange language.
By Orthobros, you mean the Orthodox Ethos crowd, right ?
SavaBeljovic wrote: ↑Fri 25 October 2024 7:27 amI don't bring these things up to state "wow look at her she is a sinner!" -- because obviously we all are -- and heresy is more important than anything; however I bring these up, and because it is the opinion of Vitaly, that she might not be in the right mental state and could have some sort of illness. I rarely talk about her because even for WO standards she would be considered "low hanging fruit", and if she is mentally ill, then it'd also be picking on a sick person.
I'm not so sure if I'd buy excusing it as a mental issue. Mental issues do exist, but they do not negate the fact that human beings have free will to choose good or evil, even if they have some kind of difficulty in understanding. Often, I think the spiritual state of a person precedes mental issues. Flaming heretics can have some really weird thought processes but I can turn that around and say that their thought processes are out of line because of accepting contradictions, and because of demonic influence. The chemical imbalance hypothesis does not stand up to scrutiny--it is almost certainly a symptom rather than a cause of mental illness, even if medicating the chemicals may provide some relief.
She teaches heresy--IIRC the big fuss a couple of years ago was about her teaching publicly that the eternal doctrine on homosexuality must change. If she did something that would be sin. But her teaching that it is just dandy, is heresy.
May it be far from me to stop even a heretic from doing the right thing, but I'm not holding my breath. Un-Old ROCOR. Not un-MP, sadly.
Can you explain more what this "Based Rocor" means ? I still don't get that pop term, though I know it was kindly explained to me earlier on here. It didn't really sink in as it sounds so strange language.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/
It fundamentally just means that they agree with it. "Based" is in "based in fact", or the opposite of "debased," or moral, bold, manly. I don't necessarily keep up with the kids' slang, either, I look it up.
Aside: "We live in a society" is another fun one the kids use to point out nihilism. Urban Dictionary has this made up etymology from degenerate television--where they don't even say it--when in reality it's a quote from our dearly beloved father among the saints, Seraphim (Rose). So maybe don't trust Urban Dictionary blindly, but it helps. Like Wikipedia, anyone could have written it.
By Orthobros, you mean the Orthodox Ethos crowd, right ?[/i][/b]
Kind of. Right-wing young men who convert to World Orthodoxy because it appears "based." Dyerites, Heersites, Morphou-ites, internet tough guys who claim to have found the truth but never set foot in a church, some sincere guys who thought it was the truth and especially those who spread around photoshopped memes with quotes from saints and from recent WO elders, etc. Also some insincere right wingers who don't believe in anything really but figured out that atheism in principle cannot work as the basis for a society, so they want to promote something traditional and right-wing for other people to believe, to defeat the Jews.
In a nutshell, they're Nick Fuentes fanboys who figured out that Roman Catholicism isn't going to work out.
These guys: https://gab.com/groups/18897
Thanks a lot for those explanations ! HELPS a lot !
That picture of your scouring thru the "Urban Dictionary" - ! - never heard of such a thing, but it's good to know there is a resource when these confusing terms pop up, which they always seem to - is funny, clever ! Enjoyed that.
But i didn't like seeing what was too shocking to take in at the time I read it :
""There are the strangely sexual posts on her Facebook where she talks about her personal trainer..."
WHAT ON EARTH ?? Don't tell me Sister Vassa [the correct title, I assume for a ryassophore nun ; I said Nun Vassa by mistake earlier] is involved with her "trainer" >>?
Even that a so-called Rocor nun would HAVE a trainer at ALL is outrageous !
That term means the guide who helps people work on in a gym, I assume ?
I remember when Fr Tryphon of the Rocor-MP Vashon Island, WA small men's monastery wrote a post about how people should have spiritual guides, like a spiritual father, JUST AS they greatly need exercise trainers. How he had had one during his workout career.
I was shocked by THAT ! A monk PROUD of having been so wise to go under the direction of a weightlifting instructor, I guess it was ?!
Is Sister Vassa weightlifting, then ?-!!
I see what is meant by "playing at being a nun", even better when this information emerges !
I could imagine that, anyway, since she seems to love TOO MUCH being the wise eldress garbed in blac robes.
But I have NEVER been able to pinpoint what is the full picture about Sister Vassa, so I really appreciate everyone's comments and answers to my questions !
Would you all say she has gotten WORSE since that uproar mentioned, therefore ?
Maybe she lay low for awhile til the skandal subsided, then started revealing her real self more and more ?
REALLY, how could SHE, daughter of an Old Rocor family, EVER espouse Sergianism and its creator ? That part is appalling.
Are there any others in her family who think the same way, or it just she, if anybody has any idea ?
I did check the Orthodox meme site. Oh-so THAT is where all these "Orthobros" get their ready made Orthodox aphorisms ? I had wondered about that, since posts often pop up showing this type of image.
I was actually wondering whether some [or many ?] of the Elder quotations are - made up ??!
What do you think ? It doesn't seem like the author of the meme went thru the writings of Saint so and so and found that excerpt. They sometimes seem too convenient - OR too vague - to be authentic.
It's not my joke. These internet memes are like quotes, anyone can say something and you copy it.
Sister Vassa [the correct title, I assume for a ryassophore nun ; I said Nun Vassa by mistake earlier]
Her channel is “Coffee with Sister Vassa.” I used the same title because that is the channel, but it might not be accurate anymore. Sometimes some of the clergy and monastics online create an account with their current title in the name, and it gets out of date. Fr. Nathaniel [Kapner] (ROCOR-MP) has the same thing: he called his online accounts “Brother Nathaniel.”
This leaves the question of why they were allowed to teach publicly as novices in the first place...
Would you all say she has gotten WORSE since that uproar mentioned, therefore ?
Maybe she lay low for awhile til the skandal subsided, then started revealing her real self more and more ?
No idea, I don't follow her and don't intend to. What I will say is that if someone teaches moral heresy publicly, the worst these false shepherds do is tell them to stop. Like in this case. The closest to repentance we get is the heretic saying something along the lines of: “The bishop forbade me to speak of this [wink, wink].” And then can just keep teaching other nonsense while at most being censored on the topic with no real retraction.
See Lazar Puhalo for another example of a flaming sodomite-endorser* who instead of teaching that it is okay, these days only says that his synod forbids him from speaking “the truth.” That is in itself heresy, to say that the Christian teaching is not “the truth.” He is teaching what he was forbidden to teach, only he is saying it by saying that he is not allowed to say it. Zero repentance, no deposition.
*“Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.”
REALLY, how could SHE, daughter of an Old Rocor family, EVER espouse Sergianism and its creator ?
How could Saul, the anointed king of Christ's chosen nation, ever espouse witchcraft? Men have free will. It is heartbreaking how many denied Christ throughout history.
I did check the Orthodox meme site. Oh-so THAT is where all these "Orthobros" get their ready made Orthodox aphorisms ?
They have their online spaces of which that is one. Dyer's discord server is probably where most of them hang out.
I was actually wondering whether some [or many ?] of the Elder quotations are - made up ??!
What do you think ? It doesn't seem like the author of the meme went thru the writings of Saint so and so and found that excerpt. They sometimes seem too convenient - OR too vague - to be authentic.
That's a big problem with quotes on the internet. It's such a common problem that there is a meme joking about it, which was used in text before picture memes were common. Most of the elder quotes are real but it is hard to track some of them down without proper attribution.
