Patriarch on trial over dismissal

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Patriarch on trial over dismissal

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Patriarch on trial over dismissal
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_ar ... 2003_34237

ISTANBUL (AP) - Ecumenical Patriarch Vartholomaios I, spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians, went on trial yesterday after a Bulgarian church foundation accused him of preventing a Bulgarian priest from conducting services.

[The patriarch is already engaged in a bitter dispute with the Church of Greece over control of Greek sees liberated from the Turks after 1912.]

The case, being heard at a court in staunchly secular Turkey, calls into question the authority of the patriarch, who directly controls several Greek Orthodox churches but also has moral authority over the rest of the world’s Orthodox Christians.

Vartholomaios was not present in court. The presiding judge demanded more information, and scheduled a new hearing for January which he said the patriarch must attend.

Vartholomaios and 12 senior church officials could face up to five months in prison if found guilty of “preventing others from observing faith and conducting religious services.” The charges were brought by Bozhidar Chiprov, head of the Foundation of Bulgarian Orthodox Churches. According to the indictment, Vartholomaios ordered the dismissal of Konstantin Kostov, a Bulgarian priest, in October announcing in a written statement that he no longer had the right “to conduct religious services in any church.”

Chiprov’s lawyer said Kostov was punished for refusing to refer to Vartholomaios in prayers and to conduct religious services in Greek. At the hearing, Vartholomaios’s lawyer argued that “in a secular country, no case can be based solely on theology,” and asked for the acquittal of the defendants.

Turkey only recognizes the patriarch as the head of Greek community in Turkey and not as head of the world’s Orthodox Christians.

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Methodius wrote:

ISTANBUL (AP) - Ecumenical Patriarch Vartholomaios I, spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians,

... [snip] ...

Turkey only recognizes the patriarch as the head of Greek community in Turkey and not as head of the world’s Orthodox Christians.

Well guess what? I agree with the Turks there! Can we please have the EP and his people (as it is in every GOA article I have seen about the EP) stop telling people that he is the "spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians"? Argh!

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Methodius wrote:

...also has moral authority over the rest of the world’s Orthodox Christians.

HA!:lol:

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Well Nicholas, since the Ecumenist Church does commune with him, in a sense, he is their head. They have chosen to follow him, who is treading his own path apart from Christ.

And I suppose it may become difficult to be the head of Worldy Orthodoxy and continue persecuting the monks at Mt. Athos from a Turkish prison cell. Has anyone seen "Midnight Run", I hope things have improved.

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Methodius wrote:

Vartholomaios and 12 senior church officials could face up to five months in prison if found guilty of “preventing others from observing faith and conducting religious services.” The charges were brought by Bozhidar Chiprov, head of the Foundation of Bulgarian Orthodox Churches. According to the indictment, Vartholomaios ordered the dismissal of Konstantin Kostov, a Bulgarian priest, in October announcing in a written statement that he no longer had the right “to conduct religious services in any church.”

Chiprov’s lawyer said Kostov was punished for refusing to refer to Vartholomaios in prayers and to conduct religious services in Greek. At the hearing, Vartholomaios’s lawyer argued that “in a secular country, no case can be based solely on theology,” and asked for the acquittal of the defendants.

If the priest won't commemorate Patriarch Bartholomew even while serving in his jurisdiction (there's nothing in this article to suggest to me that he was not in communion with the EP in the first place, and that his bishop was not the EP), then it seems to me such is an internal matter of the Church, and shouldn't be brought to the secular courts. Isn't it an act of schism to refuse to commemorate one's bishop? Is this a case about a Bulgarian priest serving Bulgarians in Turkey under the jurisdiction of the EP, or about Patriarch Bartholomew dismissing a Bulgarian priest in Bulgaria, or dismissing him from serving in a church/mission in Turkey but under the Bulgarian Patriarch and not the Ecumenical Patriarch?

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Mor, I don't know the specifics of this case, a friend seems to think it was more about Bulgarian nationalism (in this country its called patriotism), than it was about the fact that Bartholomew being a heretic.

But either way, how "right" is it for Bartholomew to deny food, water, and medical supplies to monks who are over 100 years old?

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