The Ecumenist False Council of 2016

[Matthew]

Another sign that they are doing their best to become like their Papist brethren in all things, that they might facilitate union.

Gregorian Menaion - Check!
Shaved clergy and monastics - Check!
Westernized Music - Check!
Westernized "Iconography" - Check!
Roman collars becoming accepted for "secular priests" - Check!
Ecumenistic thinking - Check!
The Pope is the head of the Church - Check!
Dumbing down the Wednesday and Friday Fasts - Check!
Perverted Sex scandals among the clergy - Check!
Stealing relics - Check!

[Maria]

Proposal to hold Pan-Orthodox Council in Geneva instead of Istanbul

Istanbul, January 9, 2016

According to the Romfea agency, Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople says that there can be no justification for nonparticipation by any Local Orthodox Churches in the coming Pan-Orthodox Council.

Romfea has also reported the Council’s previously planned venue of Istanbul, may be changed because representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church will probably not be able to come to Phanar after the Russian government recommended Russian citizens to refrain from going to Turkey due to the strain in relations between the Russian Federation and Turkey, reports Pravlife.org with reference to Sedmitza.ru.

Meanwhile, Archbishop Ieronymos II of Athens and All Greece, primate of the Church of Greece, will not be able to participate at the Council because he is currently at variance with primate of the Church of Constantinople Bartholomew I.

There are also problems with participation by representatives of the Orthodox Church of Antioch in the Council inasmuch as Eucharistic communion between the Patriarchate of Antioch and the Patriarchate of Jerusalem was broken off due to the problem of Qatar. The Jerusalem Patriarchate has opened a church in Qatar, which traditionally falls under the canonical jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Antioch. After Jerusalem did not responded to Antioch’s requests to remedy the situation, Antioch broke off communion with Jerusalem.

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/89590.htm

[Matthew]

Proposal to hold Pan-Orthodox Council in Geneva instead of Istanbul

Istanbul, January 9, 2016

...Archbishop Ieronymos II of Athens and All Greece, primate of the Church of Greece, will not be able to participate at the Council because he is currently at variance with...Patr. Bartholomew.

There are also problems with participation by representatives of the Orthodox Church of Antioch in the Council inasmuch as Eucharistic communion between the Patriarchate of Antioch and the Patriarchate of Jerusalem was broken off due to the problem of Qatar. The Jerusalem Patriarchate has opened a church in Qatar, which traditionally falls under the canonical jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Antioch. After Jerusalem did not responded to Antioch’s requests to remedy the situation, Antioch broke off communion with Jerusalem.

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/89590.htm

That is like two Demons having an argument over who gets to enter a poor wretch's soul. Not real division of purpose or will or nature, but of who gets to run the show...

[Maria]

Proposal to hold Pan-Orthodox Council in Geneva instead of Istanbul

Istanbul, January 9, 2016

...Archbishop Ieronymos II of Athens and All Greece, primate of the Church of Greece, will not be able to participate at the Council because he is currently at variance with...Patr. Bartholomew.

There are also problems with participation by representatives of the Orthodox Church of Antioch in the Council inasmuch as Eucharistic communion between the Patriarchate of Antioch and the Patriarchate of Jerusalem was broken off due to the problem of Qatar. The Jerusalem Patriarchate has opened a church in Qatar, which traditionally falls under the canonical jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Antioch. After Jerusalem did not responded to Antioch’s requests to remedy the situation, Antioch broke off communion with Jerusalem.

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/89590.htm

That is like two Demons having an argument over who gets to enter a poor wretch's soul. Not real division of purpose or will or nature, but of who gets to run the show...

Exactly. Narcissism.

[Matthew]

Yes, and in the end, when it comes to it, they will all want to show up at the 2016 Council, because it will gall them more to be not-included, than to show up at a meeting run by EP who loves being "head honcho"--as they all do, of course. The same pride and narcissism that makes them fall out of love with each other, will bind them together.

[Barbara]

Astute observation, Matthew !

So, is it going to be Geneva for sure, then ?

Also, Matthew, you listed "stealing relics" above. Have the World Orthodox been doing that ?

[Agios_Irineos]

The MP has stolen relics from ROAC.