Was Russian Airbus shot down by US-ISIS joint forces?

[Maria]

Another related story about Sinai terror in the skies

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... r-jet.html

[Maria]

Now the finger points squarely at Israel.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/07 ... to-israel/

An excerpt below.

We are now in a full scale coverup, one that began with phony stories of mechanical difficulties from Al Jazeera, obscene cartoons from “Charlie” Hebdoe, and now floods of crafted disinformation that ignores increasing evidence.

As the story developed, intelligence agencies flooded VT with stories, all “exclusive,” and all pointing to Saudi Arabia and a “bomb.” Not one word from anyone pointed to Israel though their border was only 22 miles from the point of impact.

That alone is telling. Now, new evidence including evidence presented below that Britain silenced vital reports of an earlier failed shoot down of a “wrong plane,” point the finger to Tel Aviv.

[Barbara]

Oh really ??

VT is one of very top sources if not the only reliable one for exposing false flags and coming up with adequate possibilities to explain many such major international events.

I wasn't following it too much after the mainstream headlines' talk about a theory of a bomb onboard.

Saudi Arabia would never do such a thing ! That is typical discrediting of a country by the usual sources in order to mask the truth.

Let us know any further updates, Maria, thanks !

By the way, Veterans Today has changed quite a bit. It used to be fun. Then they started restricting comments to those using guggle or facebook accounts. I wasn't following VT for a long time due to being busy.

Recently I went to the site and felt confused. The main page is too 'busy' with lots of uninteresting material. Many new writers all the time, not all of them very good. It was difficult for me to find any articles I really wanted to read.

[Cyprian]

Maria, all the information outlets reporting on this staged plane disaster are liars, deliberately seeking to mislead us. Lew Rockwell and Gordon Duff are disinfo agents and Gordon's site Veterans Today is filled with lies and propaganda.

Maria, as I mentioned on previous occasions here, the global syndicate seeks to deceive everyone into believing that the leaders of the United States, Great Britain, Israel and the West are at enmity with the leaders of Russia, China, Iran, Syria, etc., and that both sides are engaging in provocations and maneuvers which may escalate into a Third World War.

That is the lie that they want us to believe.

Now, let's consider the reality.

Vladimir Putin is an agent acting on behalf of the same global syndicate―International Freemasonry―as Obama, David Cameron, Netanyahu, Assad, Xi Jinping, the Vatican, Buckingham Palace, and all the rest.

World Wars simply do not happen by accident, but are carefully plotted decades in advance, and as a singular cabal of Zionists plotted the previous World Wars, so this same cabal is responsible for orchestrating the coming Third World War as well. The coming Third World War has been written like a script for a movie. All the world leaders will simply follow the script handed to them. It is not going to escalate in some random fashion and break out on a whim, as they would have us believe. The staged assassinations of world leaders has long been part of the script.

Unless one recognizes this reality, they will be fumbling around in the dark, trying to make sense of geopolitics and these attacks.

Vladimir Putin is no less culpable than the leaders of America, Britain, and Israel for this staged Russian plane disaster psy-op, since he is covertly working for the same team. Putin pretends to fight against ISIS, but in reality he is an agent working on behalf of ISIS.

These deliberate disinfo "intelligence" sites and the press at large deliberately frame their reporting in order to dupe the public into thinking the world still operates according to the old order, when in reality there is a "New World Order" that reigns globally, and all the prominent world leaders are installed by this self-same cabal.

Putin is an actor, like all the key New World Order leaders, merely pretending to stand up against the West. That is the script he has been handed, and his role to fulfill.

As I have stated on previous occasions, these Zionist agents are not going to come out openly and brazenly tell the public that they are all subject to the same secret society, and are covertly working together to achieve a common goal, the enthronement of the Antichrist.

Hence, publicly, Putin pretends to oppose Obama, and Obama pretends to dislike Netanyahu, and the Republicans pretend to hate Hillary and Putin, and they pretend to fight among one another on stage at the phony scripted debates, when actually, they are all birds of a feather, and certain propaganda arms of this cabal spread disinformation that Obama is secretly a Muslim, and all the other nonsense.

[Barbara]

You seem to be mostly right, Cyprian.

I was looking for another link and came across this disquieting information about Putin in an article about the MP's Vsevolod Chaplin's rejection of the infamous Elton John. Fine as far as that section of the article goes.

However ---

WHY is Putin APOLOGIZING to the creep, instead of refusing to have any interaction with the homosexual horror ?
Why would a state leader get on the phone with a mere 'singer', even a non-homosexual one ?
This seems VERY strange, and fits the scenario Cyprian suggests.

"The singer did speak to the Russian president in several days. According to Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, the president asked Elton John not to take offence at the pranksters and assured him that if their schedules allow he would be ready to meet with him and discuss any questions interesting for the musician.

The singer has often criticized Russian law on homosexual propaganda, especially during his concerts in Moscow and St. Petersburg."

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12395

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Note that the recently scandal-ridden Peskov is cited as the source. Not a vague rumor. That makes it official that Putin spoke with the anti-Christ pop personality !

Why would such a person be allowed into the Russian Federation ? He should be BANNED from a Russian Orthodox land with substantial other minority religions who also despise homosexuals !

This is not normal behavior, and does lead to the suspicion that Putin could care less about Orthodoxy and has no fear of God. I sometimes wonder, too, whether he is merely an actor. I am not entirely convinced, but remembering the photos of him meeting the Chabad crew wearing that cap, we have to suspect this.

[Barbara]

Further leading to this conclusion is the news sometime ago that the political commentator Rush Limbaugh had the same evil personage perform at his [ how many ?] - th wedding. I was told this tidbit by a fervent fan of Limbaugh's to justify that the latter is not 'homophobic' as Limbaugh's critics amongst the homosexual lobby claimed. Roll of the eyes !

Here we have personalities ranging from Putin to his apparent political enemy, Rush Limbaugh, patronizing Elton John in one manner or another ! What is the NWO's agenda ? To make homosexuals accepted by the entire planet, and rapidly so, removing all opposition from sincere Christians and other objectors.

Both these 2 therefore figure into that agenda.