Maria wrote:Perhaps they now realize too lately that the masonic Greeks are indeed double-tongued.
Indeed, too late... The fact is that the FRAT people are historically the heir of the liberal Russian emigres who were themselves quite masonic themselves. I do not know if the present generation is so deep into masonry as the previous ones.
Barbara wrote:Well said ! I hope Archbishop Job and company are showing signs of waking up.
Archbishop Job is from Canada. His first jurisdiction was an independent Ukrainian church that later united with Constantinople (he must be very young maybe a teenager when this happened). He was clearly the candidate of the Phanar and has closed links with the patriarch: so I guess he is awaken (no masonic joke here) and knew since the beginning the election would be rigged.
As regards common people, I do not know what to tell because the only echoes I hear on the web are the protesters'. I doubt they are a majority, the majority being, as usual, silent and indifferent. They must be realizing now that Constantinople is a highly dubious place even morally because the Patriachs remains silent. What a paradox for people who used to praise Constantinople oppsing it to the wicked Moscow Patriarchate. Some seem to believe that the patriarch might not have received their letters due to a wicked anonymous hand that is snatching them. But more generally, unfortunately, they remain in their common fantasies with their worship of the school of Paris and its members : Bulgakov who had dubious view, Berdiaev who also had dubious views, Alexander Schmemann whose liturgical theology is erroneous on many points and is the base of liturgical innovation, Olivier Clément, who communed at least one in a catholic church etc, their concept of conciliarity that is actually a co-management of the church by the bishop and the laymen and priests (the latter in fact having more power than the former)... Actually, most of the actual crisis is due to to Archbishop reasserting the role of the bishop after decades (since the founding of the Exarchate) of rule by a group of influential priests and laymen.
But maybe that some of them will slowly understand the whole picture and join true orthodoxy, but I see it a bit difficult. It would be a big jump for them.
