Blue Moon - This July 31, 2015

[Barbara]

Just saw this now, Cyprian, sorry. I am glad you were able to answer my question, as it's been on my mind.
After all, how many films shown to us in school days remain somewhere in the memory ?

That explains it, then. I had actually forgotten that Sumatran tsunami of 2004, even though it was only 11 years ago.
Actually, I was not following events in the media at all for decades. Probably that's why I had not heard of this large disaster.

I like your thesis that Hollywood is the active tool of the barons of evil, so to speak, in presenting events before they are actively perpetrated. Wouldn't you say that this is a method of preparing the subconscious of the masses of people to accept whatever event is being staged or launched or "haarped" ? If they saw it in a movie, they will be so much more receptive to
the shock and horror of the natural disasters which are not random as you have illustrated so admirably for us.

I DO remember Birth of A Nation ? Why ? Because I took a class studying films as an English requirement in high school. We studied the early major releases like that. I never knew what DW stood for. And vaguely wondered why only his initials are used. After all, it is not the Soviet Union here. ( Not in this one respect, I mean ! )

Oh so THAT was the purpose of the first major film ! Isn't that sickening ?? The same theme right there from the very beginning of this industry.

Yes, you picked up on the fact that I was assuming the level had sunk in the past 4-5 decades. Continues to sink to new depths of slime as we are aware. But that is giving Hollywood too much credit. I remember older films like "The Crusades", I think was the title, with Loretta Young, which seemed genuinely religious in orientation. How would you explain those ?
I believe that film was made in the 30s. There are a number about Catholic nuns, such as "Come to the Stable", again with Loretta Young. Her co-star, named Celeste Holm, was a Protestant, however, and had no clue what genuflecting is, much less how to do it. Not to mention to do it naturally, as a Catholic nun would have.
I may have mentioned this elsewhere on E. Cafe.
I am bringing these movies up again to find out how you, the Master Analyst, would interpret them as fitting in with The Agenda - you know to WHICH agenda I am referring : the same as gladdened the hearts of the 2nd Baron Rothschild and all his descendants.

[Barbara]

Oh ! Great that you mentioned Shakespeare !
I was just reading how even Optina Elder Nektary quoted Hamlet. That was the play of Shakespeare's I knew best, having had to write some special English exams on it.

I have always FELT ambivalent about Shakespeare, however.

Many say it was not the nobody, William Shakespeare, but Sir Francis Bacon who authored the plays.

What do you think ??

Maybe we need to start another thread on the fascinating topic of The Truth About Shakespeare. Many would be interested
as all North Americans were brought up with his works as a staple. At least - until curriculums changed so drastically.

[Cyprian]

Yes, you picked up on the fact that I was assuming the level had sunk in the past 4-5 decades. Continues to sink to new depths of slime as we are aware. But that is giving Hollywood too much credit. I remember older films like "The Crusades", I think was the title, with Loretta Young, which seemed genuinely religious in orientation. How would you explain those ?
I believe that film was made in the 30s. There are a number about Catholic nuns, such as "Come to the Stable", again with Loretta Young. Her co-star, named Celeste Holm, was a Protestant, however, and had no clue what genuflecting is, much less how to do it. Not to mention to do it naturally, as a Catholic nun would have.

How would I explain actresses such as Loretta Young? I am having a hard time finding anything redeeming about her. Perhaps you refer to her biography, which states she was known as a "devout Roman Catholic," and "worked with various Catholic charities after her acting career"?

First of all, I find absolutely nothing redeeming about the apostate Roman Catholic organization, nor Hollywood.

Loretta Young was married three times, and gave instructions that she should be cremated after her death. What is devout or pious about any of this?

[Barbara]

Well, Loretta Young while on movie sets, hated the swearing of the actors. She put out a box for them to donate money every time they swore. That isn't a bad idea, and should raise a mint in today's world ! The only problem would be finding anyone who would see anything about swearing, let alone coughing up money in repentance...
to me this shows she was at least at the beginning of her career, a proverbial "nice girl".
I am not maintaining that Loretta stayed that way all her life, for she did dabble with the unpleasant Clark Gable [I could NEVER imagine what all the American women "saw" in that man. Not attractive, very superficial, sleazy...same with all the actors who had so many raving female fans. To me growing up, all were unpleasant and reeking of disreputable].
She had a secret daughter who was his child, and had to pretend she [ Loretta ] was adopting the daughter when in fact it was her own. So I agree, she was not on the absolute highest moral ground. ONLY among Hollywood major stars does she shine.

She started a TV show teaching good lessons for life, morality stories, etc after the end of her movie career.

Loretta did start complaining about the filth in the movies even way back in the early 1950s. So she is quite a cut above anyone else in the acting genre. She told her biographer that she turned down parts offered which she considered too low class, which would have been a bold thing to do in such a competitive field.

In later life, Loretta probably repented the 3 marriages and affair with Gable, for she attended daily Mass. Though Novus Ordo, not Tridentine Latin Mass.
She helped orders of American nuns with fundraising or direct donation, one time wiring a stranded Mother Superior her fare back to the States when she was informed about the nun's predicament. Can you imagine Julia Roberts doing that ?!! I mentioned her only because you have analyzed her role in that movie pretty woman. Her face looks strange to me, as though something is very wrong on the inside. She is billed to the public as 'the end-all' of beauty or 'cool'. However, if I see her picture on one of the goopy celebrity articles always foisted on the public and unavoidable if you want to check your email, I get a distinctly creepy feeling. This actress looks deeply unhappy and not at all a nice person.

Whereas we can get a sense of Loretta having been a good woman who made bad mistakes, which is quite different. By the way, I recall all the anecdotes cited here from reading Loretta's biography quite some years ago. The facts and stories must have made an impression to have stayed fairly fresh in my mind all this time. I will try to remember the story of her disastrous last marriage, which was clearly a case of a con-artist getting ahold of a gold mine [Loretta's zillions]. That part I remember very hazily. When I find it again, I will summarize it in this thread so that we can ALL learn from the duping of a person who was too trusting, too sheltered perhaps, and too naive.

From childhood, I had a strong intuitive feeling that all actors and movie 'stars' were what I termed "mixed-up". In short, they were full of insecurity, and along with sports 'stars', exceedingly unhealthy models for the American public. So i ignored them !