Directory on Reposed Orthodox Priests??

[сынок]

Good Morning,

As part of my search into my family's Russian Orthodox faith. I ask you if there could be such a directory. I am interested in getting information on the (then) ROCA priest who performed my baptism in 1953. He was the rector of my church from the mid to late '40's through the mid '60s when he reposed in the Lord.
I see mention of his name on the main ROCOR web site but, nothing else. Here's another example of my confusion: Back then, my church WAS officially a ROCA - not - ROCOR. This is proven by the stamp on my birth certificate and was confirmed in talking to the current priest at the church (which is now ROCOR MP). Why then, is his name listed on the western ROCOR site under Met. Hilarion's leadership when clearly Met. Hilarion's western ROCOR is part of MP? I thought there was 100% avoidance of any or all mention of each other except to slander and ridicule?
I'm sorry but, I'm having a terrible time trying to sort these groups into any sensible order.

In Christ,
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[Maria]

Good Morning,

As part of my search into my family's Russian Orthodox faith. I ask you if there could be such a directory. I am interested in getting information on the (then) ROCA priest who performed my baptism in 1953. He was the rector of my church from the mid to late '40's through the mid '60s when he reposed in the Lord.
I see mention of his name on the main ROCOR web site but, nothing else. Here's another example of my confusion: Back then, my church WAS officially a ROCA - not - ROCOR. This is proven by the stamp on my birth certificate and was confirmed in talking to the current priest at the church (which is now ROCOR MP). Why then, is his name listed on the western ROCOR site under Met. Hilarion's leadership when clearly Met. Hilarion's western ROCOR is part of MP? I thought there was 100% avoidance of any or all mention of each other except to slander and ridicule?
I'm sorry but, I'm having a terrible time trying to sort these groups into any sensible order.

In Christ,
сынок

Thank you for suggestion. This is a possibility.

I think that the various True Orthodox jurisdictions do keep a list in order to commemorate their priests who have fallen asleep. For example, I have seen lists posted at the GOC-AB Kallinikos, but I do not know if it is complete. Other websites do not seem to have such lists. However, it would be good to have such a thread where we can commemorate the faithful departed, not only Bishops, but also Priests, monks, nuns, deacons, and the faithful who have fallen asleep in the Lord.

In addition, perhaps we could compose a list of the first names of all those faithful Orthodox Christians who are still alive and then another list of those who have fallen asleep so that we can commemorate their names during the Paraclesis to the Most Holy Theotokos and during Saturday of the Souls.

[searn77]

Good Morning,

As part of my search into my family's Russian Orthodox faith. I ask you if there could be such a directory. I am interested in getting information on the (then) ROCA priest who performed my baptism in 1953. He was the rector of my church from the mid to late '40's through the mid '60s when he reposed in the Lord.
I see mention of his name on the main ROCOR web site but, nothing else. Here's another example of my confusion: Back then, my church WAS officially a ROCA - not - ROCOR. This is proven by the stamp on my birth certificate and was confirmed in talking to the current priest at the church (which is now ROCOR MP). Why then, is his name listed on the western ROCOR site under Met. Hilarion's leadership when clearly Met. Hilarion's western ROCOR is part of MP? I thought there was 100% avoidance of any or all mention of each other except to slander and ridicule?
I'm sorry but, I'm having a terrible time trying to sort these groups into any sensible order.

In Christ,
сынок

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (since I'm not 100% sure) but ROCOR under Metropolitan Hilarion is often called "ROCOR-MP" (although they do not refer to themselves as such) because they entered into communion with the Moscow Patriarchate in the year 2007, viewing the Moscow Patriarchate as no longer being Sergianist as it once was. So while ROCOR-MP has entered into communion with the Moscow Patriarchate, ROCOR-MP is not in the Moscow Patriarchate.

Also, I remember reading (again if I'm wrong please correct me) that ROCOR (Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia) started also referring to themselves as ROCA (Russian Orthodox Church Abroad) when they began establishing parishes in Russia. So it sounds like your priest was in ROCOR after ROCOR had begun establishing churches in Russia. Overall, ROCOR & ROCA are two different names referring to the same synod.

All of the ROCOR/ROCA synods that exist today share a common history. Since ROCOR-MP views themselves as being the only true ROCOR/ROCA synod, the history that all of the various ROCOR/ROCA synods share in common, the ROCOR-MP claims as being their own. So even though your priest was not in communion with the Moscow Patriarchate, since ROCOR-MP still considers themselves as being the only true ROCOR/ROCA synod, they claim him as one of their own.

We on this forum of True Orthodox Christians understand that the current Moscow Patriarchate is still very much Sergianist & also Ecumenist & therefore we view ROCOR-MP as departing from the true spirit of ROCOR/ROCA.

[Suaidan]

Good Morning,

As part of my search into my family's Russian Orthodox faith. I ask you if there could be such a directory. I am interested in getting information on the (then) ROCA priest who performed my baptism in 1953. He was the rector of my church from the mid to late '40's through the mid '60s when he reposed in the Lord.
I see mention of his name on the main ROCOR web site but, nothing else. Here's another example of my confusion: Back then, my church WAS officially a ROCA - not - ROCOR. This is proven by the stamp on my birth certificate and was confirmed in talking to the current priest at the church (which is now ROCOR MP). Why then, is his name listed on the western ROCOR site under Met. Hilarion's leadership when clearly Met. Hilarion's western ROCOR is part of MP? I thought there was 100% avoidance of any or all mention of each other except to slander and ridicule?
I'm sorry but, I'm having a terrible time trying to sort these groups into any sensible order.

In Christ,
сынок

While I could give a long winded explanation, the short answer is that for both legal and historical reasons, the ROCOR-MP must claim to be the full continuation of the ROCOR and is "cutting and pasting" their history to fit this narrative. This occasionally means that certain biographies are gutted of their history, or amended.

In most true ROCOR churches, Metropolitan Philaret is venerated as a saint and confessor who stood against the MP & ecumenism.

In the ROCOR-MP, he was a feeble hierarch who didn't know what he was talking about and had all his letters ghost-written by Bishop Gregory (Grabbe), a claim that was invented after the repose of Bp Gregory.

[Barbara]

This is a very good idea, Sinok.
Do not "sink" [your name, minus the "o"] with despair at all the confusing names and competing claims.
When you have extra time, then come here and read the various Forums and
you will begin to see the entire picture.

And Maria's thought of having a list of all reposed and living to have commemorated
is really a great idea. I had been compiling a short one myself last night, in fact.

We owe this to the brave departed souls who went before
and blazed a path to help us to be where we are now.
And for the living too.

Regarding "The Image of Blessed Metropolitan Philaret in the Language of Today's Rocor-MP",
maybe an article by that title could be written by someone knowledgeable !
I would sure be interested to see a good analysis in even more detail than Deacon Joseph mentioned.

I noted myself one place where the official site wrote "Of Blessed Memory" after the Great
Third First Hierarch's name. But they also wrote that for a few other reposed hierarchs.
Otherwise, the official line seems to be to most ignore his existence !
I did see one sermon by him published fairly recently. But nothing like the number
by - yawn - Bishop Mitrophan [Znosko-Borovsky].