I think it is possibly a true saying that in this hour in which we are living as True Orthodox Christians, that things shall wax worse and worse, and those who hold the to True Confession of Faith and have no communion with heresy will be very few in number. The shepherds are being struck with all kinds of errors (moral, theological, ethical, political etc) and the sheep are being scattered, not knowing who to trust. Eventually either a True Orthodox Czar will arise and set things aright, or we shall see the end of human history when the last soul is saved to fulfil the number of angels that fell, and the last True Orthodox Divine Liturgy and Eucharist is offered.
Crisis in the TOCs and the Second Coming of Christ
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Jean-Serge
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Re: Crisis in GOC of Greece under Arch. Makarios
Icxypion wrote:and the last True Orthodox Divine Liturgy and Eucharist is offered.
This contradicts the teaching that the church will always exist. Even if your read revelation book, there will be always faithfuls and a church.
Priidite, poklonimsja i pripadem ko Hristu.
Re: Crisis in GOC of Greece under Arch. Makarios
Yes, of course. I did not contradict that. I simply said that once the last liturgy and True Eucharist is served, then time will end. Hence up until the end, there will always have been a True Orthodox Church and liturgy. You and I are in agreement. 
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Re: Crisis in GOC of Greece under Arch. Makarios
I read, from one of the holy fathers, that the last Holy Liturgy will be on a Sunday (which is obvious). Then Christ will come in all His Glory. I don't recall if he said it would be during or right after. But, Pascha seems the obvious day.
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Re: Crisis in the TOCs and the Second Coming of Christ
joasia wrote:I read, from one of the holy fathers, that the last Holy Liturgy will be on a Sunday (which is obvious). Then Christ will come in all His Glory. I don't recall if he said it would be during or right after. But, Pascha seems the obvious day.
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Re: Crisis in the TOCs and the Second Coming of Christ
Saint Seraphim of Sarov also says this about the Last Liturgy on Earth until the moment of the Great Second Coming:
"I think that the eighth thousand [of years: 1992 A.D. = 7500 since the creation of the world] will pass. I think that it will pass. Everything will pass and come to an end. And the monasteries will be destroyed, but at poor Seraphimâ's in Diveyevo the bloodless Sacrifice [the true Eucharist] will be celebrated until the very day of the coming of Christ."
link:
http://rocorrefugeesreadmore.blogspot.c ... ussia.html
about a quarter of the way down the page