jgress wrote:Icxypion wrote:Indeed the entire MUD-ja-Gory-yah thing is so obviously and entirely NOT of God or genuine it staggers the imagination how people buy into this stuff.
Many Catholics, indeed many traditionalist Catholics, also reject the authenticity of Medjugorje. By any objective appraisal of the witnesses this is a suspicious event.
Below is a link to an official Catholic link exposing the deceitfulness of the so-called seers Medjugorje and their attempts at deception:
http://cbismo.com/index.php?mod=vijest&vijest=931
From the beginning in 1981, Bishop Žanić was apparently open to the phenomenon, because, as a Catholic bishop, he believed in the possibility of apparitions of the Madonna in the world. ... But he was always very cautious regarding the phenomenon under way in that parish. One example is the moment in which he caught the “seer” Mirjana in a contradiction, when she lied under oath on July 21, 1981: “We went to look for the sheep...” no, no: “Sorry, we went out to smoke...” ... Or when he wrote to Pope John Paul II on September 6, 1981: “I spoke with the young seers. They are seeing 'something', but to me it is not clear if this is a supernatural phenomenon or not”, as we reported in Mirror of Justice, 2001. Therefore he made the distinction between the seers' phantasms and subjective visions and the objective reality of the apparitions and messages of the Madonna which have been verified.
The fact that Bishop Žanić caught one of the seers in a lie is very telling.
Patrick Madrid is considered one of the top apologists in the Catholic Church here in the USA. This is what he has to say about Medjugorje:
http://patrickmadrid.com/debunking-six- ... promoters/
In searching the Internet, I found an apparently concerted attempt by the seers of Medjugorje to clean up their reputation probably by hiring social media gurus.
However, this Roman Catholic blog linked below did a thorough research of available documents and came to the conclusion that Medjugorje is false.
http://medjugorjedocuments.blogspot.com/
A cult of devotion to "Our Lady of Medjugorje" has not been granted by the Church. Items and devotions bearing this title have been made illicitly, without approval by the Church, which is responsible for authorizing these things. This has contributed to confusion among the faithful for some 30 years. Likewise, priests and bishops permitting their own local cultus to "Our Lady of Medjugorje" do so ahead of the Church. How much more confusion is caused when they bring visionaries in to their parishes, shrines, and cathedrals to have public manifestations of visions to "Our Lady of Medjugorje?" It should leave us all that much more perplexed that any bishop in any other country would permit these things when no where in the regions making up the former Yugoslavia do we see bishops allowing them. Division at an ecclesial level can only give rise to division among the laity, as we have seen.
When Michael Davies, the former Roman Catholic British journalist, visited Medjugorje, he was harassed by the Franciscans. He also exposed Medjugorje as a fraud. See his reports here: http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/medjugorje.htm
Here is a brief review of his book, Medjugorje After Twenty-One Years: http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.c ... -hoax.html
Another reporter labeled Medjugorje as "visions on demand" due to over 30,000 reported visions, sometimes more than one in a day.
