Long Skirts (ankle length) vs. Short Skirts

[Barbara]

Bishop Nikodim was a Kalmyk ? HOW INTERESTING !
Wonderful to hear your description of him as a good Rocor Bishop and a confirmed anti-MP one, unlike some such as
Archbishop Anthony of Geneva [at least by descriptions of those who knew him or knew OF him].
That is really encouraging.

What you wrote was GREAT about the advice of Met Philaret for these very tricky dealings and careers.
Why would that be ? In my opinion, because the demons leap off of the patients and try to invade the helpers or attendants or doctors or nurses.
Without HUGE strong barriers, fortified by prayer, the demons would easily take over every visitor, not just staff.

Good for you for surviving and keeping mental clarity. I see that as a huge struggle when confronted with mentally ill "friends" or associates
of any description. It's VERY hard. I have been thinking quite a bit about this, remembering one example.
A Rocor nun said to me apologetically that being around her spiritual father who was maybe not too collected or organized had rubbed off
on her. Where she USED to be perfectly clean and orderly, now she had succumbed to some degree of disorder.
She SAW it but couldn't do anything about this problem, because it DOES rub off !

A deep subject in general, about which many things could be said. For myself I see how trying to help those who are really
disordered, in that psychological term used currently for people with serious personality disorders, causes HUGE STRESS.
They want to pull a helper into their dark cobwebby world, too ! In fact, that's what they are ALL ABOUT !

The minds are so un-sharp that one has to learn how to speak to them like a child, repeating everything 5 times, using simplest language.
For those with Aspergers, for example, one cannot speak in a relaxed way. Because Asperger types take everything SO literally,
the person communicating has to think over EVERY word ; otherwise long back and forths to clarify result, causing MORE aggravation !

Much can be said here. Let's hear any of your ideas, Stephen, about this topic or any other angel ?

[StephenS]

Barbara,

I smiled on reading your comment. Possibly because the thread's topic has slipped, so to speak, below the horizon. In any encounter there are always dangers both for those being helped and the helper, or if a couple is concerned a risk of an unhealthy triangular relationship. As one older family member was fond of saying, good fences make for good neighbours. As with all good practice clinical supervision is a prerequisite. And for the Christian a good confessor. But this is something for a different thread and one I do not have time to commit to (trying to read The Christian East and Rise of the Papacy, plus some other obligations). Take care.

Stephen

[Barbara]

Oh a little diversion of subject matter here and there won't hurt anyone...!

After all, how would I have learned about the well-known Bp Nikodim of Richmond and Great Britain if you had not imparted that info ?

I had heard of him, but had no idea as to his "politics" regarding the MP.
I am GLAD to hear he would have been heartily opposed to ROCOR's gambit in acceding to MP pressure to amalgamate.

As for dress, I think in light of what you, Stephen, said in your previous post, that it is MORE essential than EVER before
in history for women to really dress down in terms of NOT attracting men's eyes.

Why ? There are SO MANY perverts out there. It's absolutely scary. I wouldn't know myself personally. But reading accounts
of people who look into this subject, it appears that a shocking number of supposedly married men with children, too, even,
are online all the time on filthy "dating sites" of every evil description. No one even would know except that a few have been
found out in their dreadful double life.

So it seems that this trend is going to increase like a tidal wave, the way the media and all the usual powers are
trying to get humans to forget God, and become obsessed with this sort of revolting stuff.
I mean, some are really digging in the filth. The weird thing is that no one around them ever guesses.

So with THIS kind of horrible mind out there, women have to take EXTRA care to dress as conservatively as possible under
their circumstances.

This is a serious time in history and wearing flashy or even very colorful, noticeably clothes, should be dropped.
It's not worth it to attract the attention of the devils who will find agents who can be used to cause difficulties for too noticeable
women.
Time to be almost reclusive, in my opinion, not attracting any attention at all.
One's safety and peace of mind can depend on it, for there are too many weirdos out there these days
in Europe as well as the U.S. !

[Maria]

Oh a little diversion of subject matter here and there won't hurt anyone...!

After all, how would I have learned about the well-known Bp Nikodim of Richmond and Great Britain if you had not imparted that info ?

I had heard of him, but had no idea as to his "politics" regarding the MP.
I am GLAD to hear he would have been heartily opposed to ROCOR's gambit in acceding to MP pressure to amalgamate.

As for dress, I think in light of what you, Stephen, said in your previous post, that it is MORE essential than EVER before
in history for women to really dress down in terms of NOT attracting men's eyes.

Why ? There are SO MANY perverts out there. It's absolutely scary. I wouldn't know myself personally. But reading accounts
of people who look into this subject, it appears that a shocking number of supposedly married men with children, too, even,
are online all the time on filthy "dating sites" of every evil description. No one even would know except that a few have been
found out in their dreadful double life.

So it seems that this trend is going to increase like a tidal wave, the way the media and all the usual powers are
trying to get humans to forget God, and become obsessed with this sort of revolting stuff.
I mean, some are really digging in the filth. The weird thing is that no one around them ever guesses.

So with THIS kind of horrible mind out there, women have to take EXTRA care to dress as conservatively as possible under
their circumstances.

This is a serious time in history and wearing flashy or even very colorful, noticeably clothes, should be dropped.
It's not worth it to attract the attention of the devils who will find agents who can be used to cause difficulties for too noticeable
women.
Time to be almost reclusive, in my opinion, not attracting any attention at all.
One's safety and peace of mind can depend on it, for there are too many weirdos out there these days
in Europe as well as the U.S. !

Maybe there is a reason why those "killer" or Africanized Bees and West Nile mosquitoes are taking over the world. We have them here in Southern California, and several have dive bombed me on our property because our neighbor has a huge hive that they do not want to eradicate. So, we have been dealing with them for the past two years. My husband can no longer wear his favorite red flannel jacket, and I cannot wear any bright colors or pretty floral patterns, especially red, orange, pink, and yellow. This means that I have had to give away most of my skirts and dresses because the bees will dive bomb me or chase me whenever I wear these clothes outside even if the weather is cold in the low 40s or high 30s. The only time the bees stay in their hive is when it is heavily raining or it is dark outside. However, as soon as the sun rises, they are busy gathering honey. Thus, on our property, I must wear an insect net whenever I go outside, so I look like a muslim. Urgh.

With the prevalence of West Nile Virus, a person must cover up with long sleeves, long skirts/slacks, socks, and pest repellants so that mosquitoes will not bite.

[StephenS]

An older British actress Joanna Lumley came in for a lot of stick this week for suggesting young should better care of themselves when out celebrating by not getting blind drunk (an thus making themselves vulnerable), not wearing skimpy clothes, etc., etc.

The uproar and constant reiteration of a singular truth, that nothing excuses the responsibility of a sex predator, misses the element of taking responsibility for ourselves. If I as a bank or credit card holder fail to mask my PIN number or keep my cards the bank will not cover any losses I incurred through theft or fraud. If I fail to lock my car the insurance will not pay up in case of theft and ditto in respect of my house. None of this takes away from the responsibilities of thieves for their crimes. So why then if we are expected to take so much responsibility for our material possessions are we supposed to act recklessly about our very safety and yet in nowise are we to be advised, challenged or found wanting for failing to take any responsibility for our own safety. Such is the nonsense of political ideology overcoming basic common sense or logic.

I do not want a world were women and girls must dress frumpy in a desperate attempt to keep safe, nor do I view modesty as something basically focused on women's apparel but rather to do with the behaviour, speech and attitude of us all, men and women, old and young, forum contributors alike.

[Maria]

An older British actress Joanna Lumley came in for a lot of stick this week for suggesting young should better care of themselves when out celebrating by not getting blind drunk (an thus making themselves vulnerable), not wearing skimpy clothes, etc., etc.

The uproar and constant reiteration of a singular truth, that nothing excuses the responsibility of a sex predator, misses the element of taking responsibility for ourselves. If I as a bank or credit card holder fail to mask my PIN number or keep my cards the bank will not cover any losses I incurred through theft or fraud. If I fail to lock my car the insurance will not pay up in case of theft and ditto in respect of my house. None of this takes away from the responsibilities of thieves for their crimes. So why then if we are expected to take so much responsibility for our material possessions are we supposed to act recklessly about our very safety and yet in nowise are we to be advised, challenged or found wanting for failing to take any responsibility for our own safety. Such is the nonsense of political ideology overcoming basic common sense or logic.

I do not want a world were women and girls must dress frumpy in a desperate attempt to keep safe, nor do I view modesty as something basically focused on women's apparel but rather to do with the behaviour, speech and attitude of us all, men and women, old and young, forum contributors alike.

A woman can wear long modest skirts and dresses and still not be frumpy.
Today, I saw a beautiful woman who wore a long red dress. She was very elegant and modest and certainly did not look frumpy.

On the other hand, today I saw also some women who were all dressed in fatigued black clothing ... black tight and revealing jeans with a very frumpy looking faded black blouse. It was like they were all wearing uniforms. Is this the latest fashion rage? It was also very obvious that they had implants in their rears and busts or that they were wearing padded undergarments. It was so unnatural, gross, and distracting.

[Barbara]

WHAT ?? You mean women are doing THAT ? I don't know about the outfits being the [evil] style -
but is THAT a style now ? I don't keep up with anything in current popular life.

I guess it would be called implants, but the most i have run across in all these years is one woman who talked about
how much she wanted to have a facelift.

But maybe cosmetic surgery has hit a new low ? -
this vanity has exceeded every limit and is surely a sign of devils ruling so many people.

I think natural is the only way to be.