Greek Old Believers?

[Revnitel]

Then let me explain it to you so that you can understand. 1). New Calendarists believe the error of Traditionalists is that they believe that the traditions of the non Orthodox are heretical. 2). That Orthodoxy adopted the New Calendar and discarded the old means there is not always ONE way of doing things in a God blessed manner. 3). So when Traditionalists/Old Calendarists absolutize "tradition" instead of observing "Tradition" they fall into grave error. This is a textbook NC modernist position.

[Maria]

Then let me explain it to you so that you can understand. 1). New Calendarists believe the error of Traditionalists is that they believe that the traditions of the non Orthodox are heretical. 2). That Orthodoxy adopted the New Calendar and discarded the old means there is not always ONE way of doing things in a God blessed manner. 3). So when Traditionalists/Old Calendarists absolutize "tradition" instead of observing "Tradition" they fall into grave error. This is a textbook NC modernist position.

According to St. Nectarios of Aegina, the highly educated modernists who prided themselves as graduates of Ivy League universities with diversified studies in psychology, sociology, and political history, opposed Holy Tradition and believed in change. For example, modernistic Orthodox clergymen in the early 1900s believed that they had the right to wear secular dress as opposed to the simple frock (or riassa) of a priest or bishop and that they had the right to shave off their facial hair, as they wanted to blend in with the ruling intellegencia of the West and avoid the appearance of backward Greek farmers. These "traditions" of wearing the priestly riassa and of not shaving their facial hair were considered to be "traditions" that were man-made, and thus, not part of Holy Tradition. Ultimately, these same modernists wanted unity with the Vatican. Therefore, they felt that it was important to look dignified in Western eyes so that they could hold discussions with Roman Catholic clergymen. Hence, as the first step toward unity with Rome, they supported the use of the Gregorian calendar with a common celebration of Christmas.

In Catholic speak, tradition with a "little t" and Tradition with a "big T" are different. Little traditions, such as the Mass, can be changed, but big Traditions, such as Papal Infallibility cannot be changed. The problem here is that the Divine Liturgy was gifted to us by Christ Himself, so it is part of our Holy Tradition. The R.C. doctrine of Papal Infallibility is not found in Holy Tradition, but is part of the tradition of men ... a tradition that developed and was finally imposed on the church by the Pope at Vatican I. This papal imposition caused yet another schism in the Roman Church with the formation of the Old Catholics.

In other words, the idea of the dichotomy between "traditions" and Holy Tradition is merely a SMOKESCREEN invented by the modernists so that they can make their changes at will. During Vatican II, these modernists declared that the Mass was a little "t", so they could create the Novus Ordo Missae (New Order Mass), which was taken from the Lutheran Hymnal of 1904 in cooperation with six Lutheran ministers.

[Revnitel]

Exactly.