What is Causing the Gibberish?

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Re: What is Causing the Gibberish?

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Lydia wrote:

Hello. I am a new poster to this forum and I thought I'd stick my oar in here to get my feet wet. Twice in the last few years I have had the same attacks of spouting giberish as I saw on some videos. in my case it was caused by a condition called Hemi-plegic migraine. It is a migraine with stroke-like symptoms such as partial paralysis, numbness, visual, aural and speech disturbances, etc. Strangly enough, these symptoms can occur without headache pain. They are caused by swelling blood vessels in the brain and can be eliminated with medication. Sometimes the explanation is just a human being's fragile physical nature.

But, what were you feeling in your soul at that moment? Was your mind focused on something specific? And may I ask, are you Orthodox? The oars are definitely in motion....

Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)

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Barbara wrote:

Exactly ! I could not agree with you MORE, Icxpion.

I see ALL mental illness as demon-derived or demon-based.
The symptoms differ, but that is because a different variety of demons is possessing the person - usually from birth.
Not a sudden thing like the individual will try to construe : "it was my --- bla bla relative --- who is at fault, it made
me become possessed."
No ! It is themselves having a boredom with life, not knowing what to do with themselves, having no holy purpose
of saving the soul, they cast about for human attention for being evil or nasty or obnoxious.

Specifically about this gibberish - it could happen to a perosn ONE time maybe.
Like that newscaster from LA : i remember that video ; it was the last I really looked at of ordinary "news".
It intrigued me because I wondered about whether there WAS
a demonic origin of that.

American society makes tons of APOLOGIES for these sorts of things by claiming science, medical,
studies done, all to put a stamp of approval on them.

Never once is a devil mentioned ! Few in this country believe in God very strongly anymore, so
there is no fight when everything is explained by medical doctors or scientists.
It's comforting to the type of person brought up with this education system.

For me, it is astonishing that no one talks about the spiritual side and
considers this MASS DEVIL POSSESSION taking place.
In America ! And Western Europe, too [French Socialist government of Hollande
is going to treat the Catholic Society of St Pius X [SSPX] as dangerous extremists,
monitor them like they are budding terrorists ! There is no end to the evil policies
being conducted everywhere in the Western world !]

One has to be strong to fight back ! Most people are taught to tamely go along with their peers.
This is the so-called education system here.

Weak individuals say well everyone else is [having homosexual friends or taking the latest fashionable drug or medication -
to me they are the SAME !], so why not join the bandwagon and do the same ?

VERY GOOD POST< Icxypion !

Even that "Judge Judy" was doing this ? I see her only because the old ladies at my sewing place
always have her tv show on when I am picking up an order. I glimpsed a headline about her
recently but didn't look at the actual story.

That's really something. I am trying to figure out WHY these people are so BEFUDDLED in their
brains. It's actually very scary when one realizes that it could be personnel waiting on you
somewhere who are susceptible to demonic pressure to cause delay or problems with YOUR
order [not a demonized person's order, but YOURS, because the Devil wants to trip you up ! As
a God-fearing person, you are their enemy. THIS is 'targeting' !]

I hadn't heard about the other AT ALL. Briefly these people imagine the US military is doing what ?
Listening to them or sending bad microwaves at them ??

Barbara, you are dramatic without a cause. Focus on what is real and stop fantasizing about other worldly things. You blab about your views but do you have any experiences of them?? Do you even know what you're saying? Your comments are all based on your personal opinions which have no basis of reality. You are just blah, blah, blahbing. Basically, your comments are all gibberish. If you want to blah, blah, go to Orthodoxchristianity.com.

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I was working, concentrating on my job,I was getting a migraine, and then...babble,babble babble. It lasted a few seconds and then I took my migraine medication, and I was fine.
Yes, I am Russian Orthodox.

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Re: What is Causing the Gibberish?

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I want to say a word to everyone, as well as myself, by way of reminder because we can all be too insensitive at times. Sometimes we can also be too sensitive to criticism, which is another passion. However, we must all try to find the middle ground, the balance point where our words are measured reasonably and with consideration for the ultimate goal of love, which our Saviour has commanded us. By reasonably measured words, I mean that we need to ask ourselves, "How much force in necessary with this person to get the point across so they understand and can accept the words we speak so it changes them for the better?" If we use too little force with the thick skinned and insensitive soul, they will not take much notice of the correction. If we use too much force, we risk driving them out into the resentment of satan. In either case, they will be either no better or even worse for our words, and in the second case, we will be guilty of their worsened condition. In the first case, if we were too gentle, nothing prevents us from speaking to them a second time in a more forceful fashion if we see they did not take anything we said to heart. Hence, it is wiser to begin gently and with more tact, rather than first using the tact of a sledge-hammer. I think the following illustrates the unnecessarily harsh approach:

joasia wrote:

Barbara, you are dramatic without a cause. Focus on what is real and stop fantasizing about other worldly things. You blab about your views but do you have any experiences of them?? Do you even know what you're saying? Your comments are all based on your personal opinions which have no basis of reality. You are just blah, blah, blahbing. Basically, your comments are all gibberish. If you want to blah, blah, go to Orthodoxchristianity.com.

We are all True Orthodox Christians here. We all say things that we ought not to. We also say things that should be said, but in a manner that shows a purpose towards healing them of any shortcomings, and not simply with the intent of venting our personal frustrations on someone and trying to blast them out of our comfort zone as in the above example. We true believers are so few in the world, and we need to accept each other's differences in temperament and personality and embrace each other in brotherly or sisterly love. Don't be harsh with others as if they were the enemies of Christ. Don't tell people to leave us just because we don't like the way they express themselves. They are True Orthodox Christians for goodness sake! Our salvation is in our brother and sister, as one of the saints said. If we despise our sister or brother, we despise our own salvation. As we approach the Nativity of Christ, let's draw near to each other despite our personal faults, as Christ who is all-pure, and without any flaw and dwelt in the beauty of heaven but forsook all that peace and tranquility to dwell with us in our darkness, ugliness, and sin to save us in His great love. The mystery of the incarnation is there for each of us, "Christ in you, the hope of glory." Christ is in each of us. May God help us to love and honour each other as we would Christ Himself, who dwells within our brothers and sisters.

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Very interesting what you have written. There are in Western Europe also such matters. We have no rational explication. There are diabolical machinations. We can only say and pray "Kyrie eleison" !

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Interesting contribution, Archimandrite !
It's good to know that the same problems are afflicting people there, too.

MUCH THANKS to Icxpion for his balanced, thorough and deeply aware post above.

Actually, as probably many Americans are, I am TIRED of STRANGERS dumping a massive amount of
negativity onto others who have little, or usually nothing, to with their problems - this occurs over and over
and is probably a major factor in the Devil's having a big hold through this one trick alone on so many
people.
I was just looking at something about how a certain type of person blames a NICE person as their target,
for some inexplicable reason, and then tries to wear that individual down so that
the target will feel negative about herself or himself. Then that nice person becomes ripe for exploitation by the less scrupulous
of these types.
SO MUCH HARM is caused, like mental/emotional/spiritual HARM, that I wouldn't want to be the person
who is dishing venom out on the nearest available person ! It is a SIN in my opinion, to deliberately cause HARM
to another.

I felt awful when I read that.
I could have been upset and tripped on something on the pavement because of feeling attacked and had a bad problem
as a result. Guess who would be held as responsible ?
Same for anybody.

Orthodox tend to be often TOO aggressive in singling out people and heaping blame which they don't even deserve,
as though because of INTENSE MOODINESS or internal frustrations, as Icxpion suggests.

May I suggest we turn this incident from spiritual LOSS to spiritual PROFIT by reining in oneself if one is susceptible
to these outbursts, so that harm is not done to anyone anywhere ? Online or in person or by letter or in a workspot.

I have quite a few bleeding scars from anonymous attacks made regarding the internet.
Maybe others do, too.

But in an Orthodox Christian milieu, there is no excuse for this low behavior of some parties. I am not talking about joasia there.

By lashing out hoping to harm someone else [who barely could possibly deserve such crude treatment !],
I want to remind us all that it comes right back to those who perpetrated the assault, and often in WORSE form.
So one is hurting oneself by denouncing or dumping on a totally unrelated party !

Families can also have the same dynamic. At least there, there is some FAINT basis for singling out due to jealousy
of a family member of whom the aggressor is jealous.

Here where we are starting to create a harmonious True Orthodox community, it's either demented or inspired by the dark
side to ruin someone's day - or week ! People have to think if THEY want to responsible for this before God !

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joasia wrote:

Barbara, you are dramatic without a cause. Focus on what is real and stop fantasizing about other worldly things. You blab about your views but do you have any experiences of them?? Do you even know what you're saying? Your comments are all based on your personal opinions which have no basis of reality. You are just blah, blah, blahbing. Basically, your comments are all gibberish. If you want to blah, blah, go to Orthodoxchristianity.com.

Dear Joanna, personal attacks are not permitted here. Would you please retract these words?

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