Ecumenism in Germany

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Ecumenism in Germany

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A ecumenical meeting recently took place in Germany, with as orthodox representative, Metropolitan Augustin of the Ecumenial patriarchate. According to the pics, he received a blessing with water or oil from a catholic bishop. Everything is in German or Greek. Could someone tell what exactly happened?

The sources :
http://aktines.blogspot.it/2012/05/blog-post_5513.html
http://aktines.blogspot.fr/2012/05/blog-post_18.html

And it is reported in English too : http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news ... s-reports/

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I could find additional data here. It was a symbolical baptism :

the representatives got ahead of themselves with a symbolic baptism of each member by another member. They dipped their hand in water and symbolically baptized each other on the forehead with an open hand, saying: "You are baptized in the Name of the Triune God".

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Jean-Serge wrote:

I could find additional data here. It was a symbolical baptism :

the representatives got ahead of themselves with a symbolic baptism of each member by another member. They dipped their hand in water and symbolically baptized each other on the forehead with an open hand, saying: "You are baptized in the Name of the Triune God".

Lord have mercy.

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Thank you, dear Jean-Serge!!!

WO + RC + Protestantism = Minions of the New World Order

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Help us, O Lord, and save us, for we perish.

Our eyes have become blinded to the delusion of the Evil One.

How many souls seeing their bishops behaving badly are imitating their bishop's ecumenical practices?

I knew a lot of old ladies in World Orthodoxy who thought nothing about receiving communion with their Catholic or Protestant relatives whenever they were visiting them over the weekend. Their reasoning: those people do not have valid sacraments, so it is just bread and grape juice, nothing more. And so, they did not even bother to tell their priests in their Antiochian, Greek Orthodox Church, or OCA parishes about their intercommunion practices as they did not even see it as intercommunion, but as socializing.

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I think it is important to stress what St. John Chrysostom has stated about the necessary of separating from non-believers, even if they call themselves "canonical Orthodox" because we will be weakened and become confused by our misguided associations with these heretics.

The German Orthodox Bishop mentioned above in the OP is just one example of hierarchs openly violating the canons.

Just like the Pharisees of old, if current members remain in World Orthodoxy with its rampant ecumenism, then they risk losing their salvation. I know some choir members of GOARCH who devoutly sing the Paracleisis, but some hierarchs and clergy in the Greek and Antiochian churches are slowly phasing out Supplicatory prayers to the Theotokos. Would this be from the ecumenical influence of protestants?

The excuse some of these hierarchs give is that clergy and parishioners cannot find the time to attend these services. Lord have mercy. Vespers in many parishes has already been abandoned or is slowly being phased out. Lord have mercy.

Metropolitan Moses concludes his sermon with this dire warning:

Today, there are many who are sick with the same diseases and yet they call themselves Orthodox and have titles of bishop or priest or the status of an “elder,” despite the fact that they support teachings condemned by the Church. In these cases we must remember the words of Saint John Chrysostom “that agreement is not in all cases good, just as division is not in all cases evil.” In his commentary Saint John implied that it is essential to separate from such men in order to even begin to understand the truth.

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Here is a related sermon by His Eminence Metropolitan Moses which he wrote for the Sunday of Orthodoxy.

This also deals with the heresy of ecumenism.

http://www.orthodoxmetropolisportland.o ... _2012.html

[link no longer works as Met. Moses has moved to Canada]

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