THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

[Priest Siluan]

You write ''...Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''. What do you mean? Who is this Hierarchy?

I think everybody here knows about what I meant.

It is certainly not clear to me, Father, what you are trying to say here. Please clarify.

What is not clear for you, dear Father? You know what I think about "modern democracy"

I just sent a PM to Jonathan, where I wrote:

What I tried to say there was my personal opinion about I am not agree with TOC hierarchs have good relation with "democratic" modern powers, because "democracy" (and "modern Power") is based on Freemasonic principles. I know that for the Greek TOCs are more close to accepting modern democracy.

I hope everything about this matter will be clear now ,and definitely, for everybody here on the EC.

[Priest Siluan]

Bishop Akakije was a novice in a monastery Kovilj in Serbia two years, then for more serious monastic life and problem of ecumenism who practiced in a monastery Kovilj he crossed to Mount Athos. There he settled in Skete Kapsokalivia where as a novice he spent another year with those who mention Bartholomew because they still did not know for zealot fathers. There he met zeilot fathers and decided to break communion with the World Orthodoxy. After breaking communion with the World Orthodoxy, in Mount Athos he became a monk from Serbian heiromonk Raphael and Serbian Hagiorite Monk Daniel. That monastic tonsure was in catacomb conditions of persecution because when Bishop Akakije departure from those who mentioned Bartholomew that meant his illegal stay on Mount Athos. Based on sued of Serbian Monastery Chilandar police asked to kick him out from Mount Athos. Then the Bishop Akakije seriously ill and was forced to move to Athens to Archimandrite Philaret monastery. The day after, in monastic cell, where he lived with a Serbian monk Daniel police arrived with a warrant for the arrest of Bishop Akakije. If he was arrested would be expelled from Greece with the prohibition of return to Greece which would mean termination of the mission of True Orthodoxy in Serbia.

How shameful spectacle is see those who call themselves "True Orthodox" attack a real struggler for true Orthodoxy as Bishop Akakije, who has been persecuted and still is persecuted by the Ecumenist and "Secular" authorities, while these true Orthodox attack and speak from the comfort of Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities, who are enemies of the Orthodoxy. Their lack of Christian Love has not limits.

Father Siluan, bless me a sinner Vasilije.

Thank God for that gift of true and peaceful discernment witch is given to you by His Grace, He will know how to reward wise using of that holy weapon in your sincere battle for defending his Truth and Serbian TO Church.

Your post make us all (STOC Serbs) joyful and optimistic, because it make peace. May your peacemaking spirit grows more strong, by the prayers of our Holy Mother Mary.

Thank God He gave you to us, my dear brother in Christ.

Desar in Christ, Vasilije!

God bless you!

Thank you for your good word about me, a great sinner and unworthy.

Keep me in your holy prayers.

Unworthy,

Priest Siluan

[Ђура Јт]

Can we return to the subject please, it's hard enough to keep things NOT personal here in Serbia and to talk with love with people who seem to hate us, now things are becoming personal here.. on a virtual place for Christians... So where were we... yes... STOC is schismatic becuse we wanted to have bishop for our struggling Church so we can continue strengthened our fight against BP and its lies to belivers in Serbia. Now we have a bishop ordained by the RTOC. On the other hand GOH was so offended with this act that they immedeately stoped all negotiations and contacts with RTOC (which btw lastet for three years without any progress ). Well, it seems to me that GOH is very happy about this turn because now they have excuse not to recognize RTOC and you'll all agree that three years of tapping in place is too muchto handle even for Greeks although they are known as skilled negotiators, this must be a great relief. We will always look on our Greek brothers with great love in Christ generously forgetting insults of recent talking and writing with great gratitude for their help (which, as we now see, was not unconditional as they pretended). The Truth must be preached this must not stop us all from confessing it .

[Tryphon]

Can we return to the subject please, it's hard enough to keep things NOT personal here in Serbia and to talk with love with people who seem to hate us, now things are becoming personal here.. on a virtual place for Christians... So where were we... yes... STOC is schismatic becuse we wanted to have bishop for our struggling Church so we can continue strengthened our fight against BP and its lies to belivers in Serbia. Now we have a bishop ordained by the RTOC. On the other hand GOH was so offended with this act that they immedeately stoped all negotiations and contacts with RTOC (which btw lastet for three years without any progress ). Well, it seems to me that GOH is very happy about this turn because now they have excuse not to recognize RTOC and you'll all agree that three years of tapping in place is too muchto handle even for Greeks although they are known as skilled negotiators, this must be a great relief. We will always look on our Greek brothers with great love in Christ generously forgetting insults of recent talking and writing with great gratitude for their help (which, as we now see, was not unconditional as they pretended). The Truth must be preached this must not stop us all from confessing it .

Greetings with the Dormition feast of our Most Holy Lady,
-The tapping in place by GOC for 3 years as You put it regarding the RTOC seems to have been the correct move looking at the outcome of the Akakios-Tikon schism not only with the GOC but with the Majority of Clerics and Faithful in the Serbian-GOC. I don't know if anybody even really considers RTOC canonical. I'm quite sure that their anti-canonical meddling within GOC parishes outside of Greece (in Serbia) has raised more than a. Few eye-brows as to their Church laws IQ. As for Akakios it now seems clear that He wanted to become a Bishop all along, and with the very real possibly that someone else would be chosen for the Serbian-GOC mission, He totally lost His cool and ran like a thief in the night to France to secretly be ordained. Both He and Tikon have as their foundations the same and exact thing, a womens convent ( Lesna,New Stenik). When the Nuns realize with whom they are dealing with and make changes both Houses will crumble. The so-called stoc is a schismatic entity on Canonical Serbian land. If it caused conscience problems to You and Your when You woke up and realized that You were under the Hellenic hierarchy of GOC then instead of supporting an unstable Man and His quest for glory You should have. Contacted the truly suffering Bishop of Serbia His Grace Artemije. And if Your adventureous and brave you could go to Kosovo and Methohije and become a missionary among the Hagarenes. Then You would be doing Apostolic work.

If saving yourself is most important then the place to be is the Serbian-GOC; If You would like to help others save themselves then you should be under Bp Artemije. If on the other hand you enjoy hollywood settings and plots, you-tube videos, and someones demented view of the Orthodox Church,then you have found your spot. We will reap what we have sown. May the Master grant You wisdom to test the spirits; not all spirits are from GOD. A good tree does not yield bad fruit,nor a bad tree good. Please do realize where and with whom your are currently with. Glory to GOD for all.

[Despotovac]

Excuse me brother Savа or Bishop Photius, I am a priest from Despotovac Stefan Nikolic. Bishop Akakije is in the mountain and there is no Internet. Of course, Bishop helps me sometimes by giving to me some information that I am not sure.

[jgress]

Can we return to the subject please, it's hard enough to keep things NOT personal here in Serbia and to talk with love with people who seem to hate us, now things are becoming personal here.. on a virtual place for Christians... So where were we... yes... STOC is schismatic becuse we wanted to have bishop for our struggling Church so we can continue strengthened our fight against BP and its lies to belivers in Serbia. Now we have a bishop ordained by the RTOC. On the other hand GOH was so offended with this act that they immedeately stoped all negotiations and contacts with RTOC (which btw lastet for three years without any progress ). Well, it seems to me that GOH is very happy about this turn because now they have excuse not to recognize RTOC and you'll all agree that three years of tapping in place is too muchto handle even for Greeks although they are known as skilled negotiators, this must be a great relief. We will always look on our Greek brothers with great love in Christ generously forgetting insults of recent talking and writing with great gratitude for their help (which, as we now see, was not unconditional as they pretended). The Truth must be preached this must not stop us all from confessing it .

Greetings with the Dormition feast of our Most Holy Lady,
-The tapping in place by GOC for 3 years as You put it regarding the RTOC seems to have been the correct move looking at the outcome of the Akakios-Tikon schism not only with the GOC but with the Majority of Clerics and Faithful in the Serbian-GOC. I don't know if anybody even really considers RTOC canonical. I'm quite sure that their anti-canonical meddling within GOC parishes outside of Greece (in Serbia) has raised more than a. Few eye-brows as to their Church laws IQ. As for Akakios it now seems clear that He wanted to become a Bishop all along, and with the very real possibly that someone else would be chosen for the Serbian-GOC mission, He totally lost His cool and ran like a thief in the night to France to secretly be ordained. Both He and Tikon have as their foundations the same and exact thing, a womens convent ( Lesna,New Stenik). When the Nuns realize with whom they are dealing with and make changes both Houses will crumble. The so-called stoc is a schismatic entity on Canonical Serbian land. If it caused conscience problems to You and Your when You woke up and realized that You were under the Hellenic hierarchy of GOC then instead of supporting an unstable Man and His quest for glory You should have. Contacted the truly suffering Bishop of Serbia His Grace Artemije. And if Your adventureous and brave you could go to Kosovo and Methohije and become a missionary among the Hagarenes. Then You would be doing Apostolic work.

If saving yourself is most important then the place to be is the Serbian-GOC; If You would like to help others save themselves then you should be under Bp Artemije. If on the other hand you enjoy hollywood settings and plots, you-tube videos, and someones demented view of the Orthodox Church,then you have found your spot. We will reap what we have sown. May the Master grant You wisdom to test the spirits; not all spirits are from GOD. A good tree does not yield bad fruit,nor a bad tree good. Please do realize where and with whom your are currently with. Glory to GOD for all.

Dear Tryphon, if you can figure out a way of arguing your case without attacking the character of other people like Fr Akakios, you are much less likely to be banned from here.

[Ђура Јт]

Greetings with the Dormition feast of our Most Holy Lady,
-The tapping in place by GOC for 3 years as You put it regarding the RTOC seems to have been the correct move looking at the outcome of the Akakios-Tikon schism not only with the GOC but with the Majority of Clerics and Faithful in the Serbian-GOC. I don't know if anybody even really considers RTOC canonical. I'm quite sure that their anti-canonical meddling within GOC parishes outside of Greece (in Serbia) has raised more than a. Few eye-brows as to their Church laws IQ. As for Akakios it now seems clear that He wanted to become a Bishop all along, and with the very real possibly that someone else would be chosen for the Serbian-GOC mission, He totally lost His cool and ran like a thief in the night to France to secretly be ordained. Both He and Tikon have as their foundations the same and exact thing, a womens convent ( Lesna,New Stenik). When the Nuns realize with whom they are dealing with and make changes both Houses will crumble. The so-called stoc is a schismatic entity on Canonical Serbian land. If it caused conscience problems to You and Your when You woke up and realized that You were under the Hellenic hierarchy of GOC then instead of supporting an unstable Man and His quest for glory You should have. Contacted the truly suffering Bishop of Serbia His Grace Artemije. And if Your adventureous and brave you could go to Kosovo and Methohije and become a missionary among the Hagarenes. Then You would be doing Apostolic work.

If saving yourself is most important then the place to be is the Serbian-GOC; If You would like to help others save themselves then you should be under Bp Artemije. If on the other hand you enjoy hollywood settings and plots, you-tube videos, and someones demented view of the Orthodox Church,then you have found your spot. We will reap what we have sown. May the Master grant You wisdom to test the spirits; not all spirits are from GOD. A good tree does not yield bad fruit,nor a bad tree good. Please do realize where and with whom your are currently with. Glory to GOD for all.

I don't know where you get your information from or why you hate bishop Akakije so much. When bishop Artemije left SPC/ BP we were all hoping that he will quit concelebration with world orthodox but that didn't happened actually nothing happened. He suffered from BP but he doesn't want to recognize True orthodox so his position is unclear for me and yours too. I don't want to become missionary among the Hagarenes now what?

If saving yourself is most important then the place to be is the Serbian-GOC

what is this what do you want to prove? Your bishop- Artemije showed that he is brave but didn't move at all. But if you hate us so much Tifune you should definitely join GOX here in Serbia then you would be in true church and your work in Kosovo and Metohija would actually mean something.