THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Re: THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Suaiden wrote:
Tryphon wrote:

In all certainty it will take some time is a PM okay?

For the document? No, that's unacceptable. If you'd like to send a PM on other matters, I won't block you, so feel free.

Bp Artemije's biography I will send by PM and if You get any requests for viewing feel free to post it. The tuff part is locating it,as I mentioned the original site was over-taken.
As for the document I will of course post it to the currently running post GOD willingly,just need to do some searching since it was circulated at the end of the calendar year.
Thank you for your support.

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Re: THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Suaiden wrote:

So what you are saying is that save for one flagrant heretic, yes, he recognizes the Serbian Patriarchal Synod? Not recognizing non-canonical action doesn't mean he doesn't recognize the SPS.

This was a simple yes, no maybe I asked for.

Instead I got three paragraphs of poetry I specifically didn't ask for.

A simple word please. Does he recognize the Serbian Patriarchal Synod as the canonical Church of Serbia right now or not?

Can you answer in one word?

Dear brother,
I just realized that we might be on to something. You used the word " flagrant Heretic" to describe "Bp" Ignatius whom Bp Artemije bravely and boldly reproached in front the Bishops council and then printed a book to warn the faithful.
What heresy does this "Bp" Ignatius preach ? That there is NO resurrection of the dead,since the soul can die.
Being certainly well read, You are familiar with the Great Saint of the Russian Church Saint Seraphim of Sarov, who stated that the Master shortened his days that He was given to live,in order to resurrect at a later time to show the faithful that there is a Resurrection from the dead,since in those days the "Bishops" will become so twisted that they will be proclaiming that there's NO Ressurection.
I don't want to proclaim it without certainty, but this "Bp" Ignatius could be one of the forerunners of this heresy! Alas the prophesy of Saint Seraphim is sprouting in our days and lifetime.

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Re: THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Ekklisiastikos wrote:
Ephrem wrote:

This has nothing to do with all the arguing, but it is a neat picture! It's Bishop Akakije when he was tonsured a monk, alongside Archimandrite Philaretos (Klimakitis), his "father from the mantle", as well as a woman who is now the nun Euphemia. I like it very much :D .

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This photo is one more proof that fr. Akakios was a schema monk of a greek monastery in greek territory and he was a cleric of the Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece. Akakios may has changed his mind in his own way but he cannot change the history behind him as well. A group of about 50 people under the leadership of a schismatic bishop (who abandoned his Bishop, left away his monastic obedience and divided into two pieces the Genuine Orthodox Serbs) cannot be considered as a local church. This is not only ridiculous but also dangerous because it is a justification of schism and a false example of how an orthodox cleric has to behave. As for the Tychonites...they didn't listen to any of our bishops' repeated suggestions, destroyed the dialogue, and with this ordination not only they didn't helped a "sister church", but they enforced an ecclesiastical coup by satisfying the ambitions of a single person. We feel sorry for what is going to be next!

Bishop Akakije as a Serbian monk sought help from the Greek GOC to become True Orthodox. No one ever thought it would sometimes interpreted as a his transferr in the Greek Church. Great Shima received from Archimandrite Philaret of which immediately received the blessing to return to his fatherland for True Orthodox mission in the agreement was not involved any Greek GOC Bishop. So none of the Greek bishops did not send him on a mission to Serbia or the bishop Akakije violating the monastic obedience.

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Whatever you are now talking about Bishop Akaki, when he came to Serbia was not a one true Orthodox Christian. His effort was all created, and do not forget that the Greek bishops did not give any support for 11 years no one has come to support him, and he from the official Serbian church suffered persecution. Only when he created true orthodox parishes and monasteries then the Greeks remembered Serbia but as its Greek protectorate.

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Re: THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Despotovac wrote:
Ekklisiastikos wrote:
Ephrem wrote:

This has nothing to do with all the arguing, but it is a neat picture! It's Bishop Akakije when he was tonsured a monk, alongside Archimandrite Philaretos (Klimakitis), his "father from the mantle", as well as a woman who is now the nun Euphemia. I like it very much :D .

Image

This photo is one more proof that fr. Akakios was a schema monk of a greek monastery in greek territory and he was a cleric of the Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece. Akakios may has changed his mind in his own way but he cannot change the history behind him as well. A group of about 50 people under the leadership of a schismatic bishop (who abandoned his Bishop, left away his monastic obedience and divided into two pieces the Genuine Orthodox Serbs) cannot be considered as a local church. This is not only ridiculous but also dangerous because it is a justification of schism and a false example of how an orthodox cleric has to behave. As for the Tychonites...they didn't listen to any of our bishops' repeated suggestions, destroyed the dialogue, and with this ordination not only they didn't helped a "sister church", but they enforced an ecclesiastical coup by satisfying the ambitions of a single person. We feel sorry for what is going to be next!

Bishop Akakije as a Serbian monk sought help from the Greek GOC to become True Orthodox. No one ever thought it would sometimes interpreted as a his transferr in the Greek Church. Great Shima received from Archimandrite Philaret of which immediately received the blessing to return to his fatherland for True Orthodox mission in the agreement was not involved any Greek GOC Bishop. So none of the Greek bishops did not send him on a mission to Serbia or the bishop Akakije violating the monastic obedience.

Please do share with us the Serbian monastery that Akakios was tontured,Him being a Serbian monk according to your statement. Do you mean that He had a Serbian driver license and was a Serbian monk from a Hellenic Monastery?
Where and when did He learn what the word Baptism actually means?

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Bishop Akakije as a Serbian monk with two Serbian monks broke communion with the Official Serbian Church and became the True Orthodox in monastery Esphigmenou through repentance. After the three monks with own initiative asked the Greek GOC Synod for corrected baptism. After the baptism they formally become monks again, and this can not be considered that they that have become Greek monks. Such attitudes are a gross misuse of force and enslave the Serbian Church flock from the Greek assistant "brothers".

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Bishop Akakije was a novice in a monastery Kovilj in Serbia two years, then for more serious monastic life and problem of ecumenism who practiced in a monastery Kovilj he crossed to Mount Athos. There he settled in Skete Kapsokalivia where as a novice he spent another year with those who mention Bartholomew because they still did not know for zealot fathers. There he met zeilot fathers and decided to break communion with the World Orthodoxy. After breaking communion with the World Orthodoxy, in Mount Athos he became a monk from Serbian heiromonk Raphael and Serbian Hagiorite Monk Daniel. That monastic tonsure was in catacomb conditions of persecution because when Bishop Akakije departure from those who mentioned Bartholomew that meant his illegal stay on Mount Athos. Based on sued of Serbian Monastery Chilandar police asked to kick him out from Mount Athos. Then the Bishop Akakije seriously ill and was forced to move to Athens to Archimandrite Philaret monastery. The day after, in monastic cell, where he lived with a Serbian monk Daniel police arrived with a warrant for the arrest of Bishop Akakije. If he was arrested would be expelled from Greece with the prohibition of return to Greece which would mean termination of the mission of True Orthodoxy in Serbia.

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