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Milan Synod concelebrates with MP

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Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory Forever!

This from the Official Website of the Milan Synod, at
http://www.metropoliadimilano.it/:

Sua Beatidune Evloghios ha celebrato la Divina Litrugia nella Parrocchia di
Como. Comunicando ai fedeli presenti che la nostra chiesa di Como sarà concessa
alla Chiesa Ortodossa Moldava posta sotto l'Omoforion di S.E. Metropolita
Vladimir di Chisinau (del patriarcato di Mosca). A Milano S. E. Arcivescovo
Avondios ha celebrato la Divina Litrugia nella Chiesa dei Santi Giovanni
Maximovich e Santa Matrona di Mosca hanno concelebrato Rev.Archimandrita Siluan
, Rev. Padre Angelo della parrocchia di Avellino, Rev. Padre Vincenzo di Torino,
Protodiacono Vadim e un ospite della Chiesa russa. S.E. mons. Onofrio ha
celebrato la Divina Liturgia a Bergamo. In pomeriggio ha visitato i fedeli nella
regione di Bergamo.

Babelfish translation:

Its Beatidune Evloghios has celebrated the Divine Litrugia in the Parish of
Como. Communicating the faithful presents who our church of Como will be granted
to the Orthodox Church Moldava it mails under the Omoforion of S.E. Metropolita
Vladimir di Chisinau (of the patriarchy of Moscow). To Milan S. and. Avondios
Archbishop has celebrated the Divine Litrugia in the Church of the Saints
Giovanni Maximovich and Santa Matrona of Moscow has concelebrato
Rev.Archimandrita Siluan, Rev. Father Angel of the parish of Avellino, Rev.
Father Vincenzo of Turin, Protodiacono Vadim and a host of the Russian Church.
S.E mons. Onofrio has celebrated the Divine Liturgy to Bergamo. In afternoon it
has visited the faithfuls in the region of Bergamo.

Truly it is joyous to see the scattered sheep gathered to the Holy Orthodox
Church!

In Christ,
Rd. DC

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Re: Milan Synod concelebrates with MP

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Here's a better translation, courtesy of Fr. Aidan (Keller), a priest formerly with Milan and - like a growing number of other ex-Milan clergy - now with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia:

"His Beatitude Eulogius celebrated the Divine Liturgy in the parish of Como,
communicating to the faithful present, that our church of Como will be conceded
to the Moldavian Orthodox Church, placed under the omophorion of His Eminence
Metr. Vladimir of Chisinau (of the patriarchate of Moscow). At Milan, His
Eminence Abp. Abundius celebrated the Divine Liturgy in the Church of St. John
Maximovitch and St. Matrona of Moscow. Concelebrating were Rev. Archimandrite
Silvanus, Rev. Fr. Angelus of the Avellino parish, Rev. Fr. Vincent of Turin,
Protodeacon Vadim, and a guest from the Russian Church. His Eminence Vladika
Humphrey celebrated the Divine Liturgy at Bergamo. In the afternoon he visited
the faithful in the Bergamo area."

Definitely a concelebration, and a canonical transfer of a Milan parish to the
Moscow Patriarchate. Glory to God!

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That's what we are talking about.
So, the administrator has to move this topic to "World Orthodoxy"..?
Good for them! At last they (Milan) admitted openly that they do NOT belong to Traditional Orthodox Church (as if they did..) and they don't have anything in common with the Genuine Orthodox Church of Christ, from long ago..
Lord have mercy on the Milan faithful

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Yes, this certainly puts the nail in the coffin.

Now, those of you who are Milan Synod clergy and faithful, your path is clear according to the canons: If any of your bishops officially, IMMEDIATELY, sever communion with the Milan Synod, then you must stay with them. However, if there is no IMMEDIATE severance of communion with them, then you are canonically bound to sever communion with your bishop and present yourself to the NEAREST (in mileage) True Orthodox bishop. If you do anything else, you are not in accordance with the canons. I do feel bad for those of you in the Milan Synod who wanted True Orthodoxy and had the rug snatched from under your feet, but now is the time to take decisive action! FOLLOW THE CANONS, THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT YOU IN TIMES LIKE THIS!

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This shouldn't be a surprising or new thing to anybody at all... it's consistent with the position of the old Milan Synod which I learned and knew about before I joined it in 2005 (I was in it only a short time), but which Dn. Joseph Suaiden has spent a whirlwind of frantic posts trying to deny... at least he was trying that until MAB got its "autonomy."

But maybe that's the reason for his reversal: he had to wait until Milan-America got its second bishop; separating before that would have left them with only the Matthewite option.

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Re: Milan Synod concelebrates with MP

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Mark Templet wrote:

Yes, this certainly puts the nail in the coffin.

Now, those of you who are Milan Synod clergy and faithful, your path is clear according to the canons: If any of your bishops officially, IMMEDIATELY, sever communion with the Milan Synod, then you must stay with them. However, if there is no IMMEDIATE severance of communion with them, then you are canonically bound to sever communion with your bishop and present yourself to the NEAREST (in mileage) True Orthodox bishop. If you do anything else, you are not in accordance with the canons. I do feel bad for those of you in the Milan Synod who wanted True Orthodoxy and had the rug snatched from under your feet, but now is the time to take decisive action! FOLLOW THE CANONS, THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT YOU IN TIMES LIKE THIS!

Father Bless,

I am sad that the words of someone who seems to have made his hobby misrepresenting our Synod-- and yours, as well by the way-- carry such weight as an authority on same. We have been aware of Milan's statement for the past two to three days. Our Metropolitan has been in discussion with Bishops of our Sister Churches, who likewise disapprove and have begun taking official steps to get to the bottom of this. The only difficulty remains that the wording of the statement remains unclear: "a guest of the Moscow Patriarchate"? We are not even sure what that means (a Bishop? Priest? Altar server?), but you have our assurance I meant what I said: we will not permit communion and concelebration with the Moscow Patriarchate. If this occurs with the blessing of Metropolitan Evloghios, communion will be officially severed.

There are concrete steps that need to be taken. We are no longer dealing with Milan, but sister Churches in Greece, Bulgaria, and Ukraine. We do have confirmation that none of them are in favor of these actions and are doing exactly the same investigations and calls to Milan as we. Furthermore, I assure you that none of us had "the rug snatched out from under us". None of us have ever been under the direct jurisdiction of Metropolitan Evloghios for years, so none of us are directly affected no matter how this ends. But we are all a bit shaken-- very much so-- at the possibility that in Milan's case, this may end badly.

Am I sad for our people and Churches in Milan? Of course! But if their leadership chooses to sacrifice True Orthodoxy for union with the Moscow Patriarchate, they have made their bed. Again, there is nothing we can do. It is not us who need to leave them. We do not permit communion and concelebration with the Moscow Patriarchate. They are making the choice to leave True Orthodoxy. And if this continues past this press release, then that is their choice.

What we will not do-- and we have learned this from experience-- is announce our actions at the behest of our enemies because they try to "scare us" into doing so. We will decide when we release the information concerning our response. Not them.

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Re: Milan Synod concelebrates with MP

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costaswright wrote:

This shouldn't be a surprising or new thing to anybody at all... it's consistent with the position of the old Milan Synod which I learned and knew about before I joined it in 2005 (I was in it only a short time), but which Dn. Joseph Suaiden has spent a whirlwind of frantic posts trying to deny... at least he was trying that until MAB got its "autonomy."

But maybe that's the reason for his reversal: he had to wait until Milan-America got its second bishop; separating before that would have left them with only the Matthewite option.

We have a second Bishop-- Archbishop Hilarion. And now we have a third. Furthermore, we have the support of our sister Churches even if that was true. This is just dumb, Constantine. So there was never a "Matthewite" option. That said, I'd rather have a Matthewite option than go with your apostasy and heresy.

Have a good night.

Fr Joseph Suaidan (Suaiden, same guy)

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