GREAT NEWS! GOC-CII and SiR

L.M.P. · Post by **L.M.P.** » Sun 16 March 2008 5:06 pm

"they regard the archbishop of the new calendarist church as the archbishop of Athens"
This is your presumption. In contrast, what I've told you is what they really told to Arch. Chrysostomos.
New calendarists of course they are an ailing church, but NOT "The Church"

"numerically speaking, the cyprianist represent nothing in Greece" this is true, but so what??? they have done a great missionary work and they have a growing number of orthodox communities and episcopates in four continents.

"have recognised giving communion to heretic new calendarist for "pastoral reasons" "
Why don't you ask directly their bishops if this holds truth?? Let me inform you, that they chrismatate N.Cs before giving them communion.

Dear Jean-Serge, I believe that so-far I have answered to your inquires about the "Lamians" and the SiR up to a point. I can't have all the answers, I'm not even a theologian, but what I'm posting here are double-crossed information from significant undisclosed sources. As I told you before ask them in person for more infos. As you have noticed, my English are not very well, so I cannot express myself utterly .
May our Lord forgive us and have mercy upon the soul of the resently reposed Met. Laurus. It seems that God didn't allow him to serve the Sunday of Orthodoxy Liturgy. His deacon found him already dead in his bed in the early morning.

Lenexa · Post by **Lenexa** » Sun 16 March 2008 7:06 pm

We have to consider the very real possibility that the kyprianites are doing this in order to derail talks between the GOC and RTOC who have recently anathemized Kyprianism and the Papal Calendar.

And the SiR is not only in full Communion with former Comsomol leader Agafangel but has made "Bishops" for him who is involved in the persecuation of RTOC!

Theophan

This is an interesting view! I admit I am not in the loop when it comes to knowing what is going on behind the scenes.
I should explain that my initial comments are more in relation to my love for the Romanian Old Calendarists and a desire to see a greater unity. Also I have profited from much of the literature produced by the C.T.O.S. If what you are saying is true I am sorry. I feel great sorrow for the laity who are not perspicacious and cannot 'read between the lines.' With all the double-talk and lies it is a wonder that some of the clergy are not struck down by lightning.

I just read of Met. Laurus death!
I must say that I cannot help but feel sorrow for this hierarch who walked with Blessed Met. Philaret and reversed so much of his work.
Was this the Lord giving us a sign?
If so Lord Have Mercy!
I am not worthy to enter the nave.

L.M.P. · Post by **L.M.P.** » Mon 17 March 2008 2:32 am

It's not at all an intersting view, it's an inaccurate (stupid..) view.
The "amiable visit" by Archbishop Chrysostomos to Met. Cyprian and their commitment to inaugurate a dialogue was long before the visit of bishop Photios to RTOC Tychon..! No connection between this two events.

GOCTheophan · Post by **GOCTheophan** » Mon 17 March 2008 5:25 am

L.M.P. wrote:
It's not at all an intersting view, it's an inaccurate (stupid..) view.
The "amiable visit" by Archbishop Chrysostomos to Met. Cyprian and their commitment to inaugurate a dialogue was long before the visit of bishop Photios to RTOC Tychon..! No connection between this two events.

The RTOC had been seeking to intiate talks with the GOC for quite some time now and this was known to the Kyprianites. After Agafangel went to Fili and ROCiE more or less collapsed it was natural that talks at the very least with RTOC should happen. So maybe not so stupid after all...

I believe that it was an Agafangelite who first put forward this possibility (of course as something good since they hate RTOC).

Many in Greece and elsewhere believe firmly that SiR is an asset of the Lodge. Some of their "Bishops" promote the satanic harry potter books which prepare the way for the antichrist.

Theophan.

L.M.P. · Post by **L.M.P.** » Mon 17 March 2008 6:44 am

GOCTheophan wrote:
The RTOC had been seeking to intiate talks with the GOC for quite some time now and this was known to the Kyprianites

This is true. All the jurictions seeking dialogue with the GOCs (except Mathweites)

GOCTheophan wrote:
After Agafangel went to Fili and ROCiE more or less collapsed it was natural that talks at the very least with RTOC should happen. So maybe not so stupid after all...

Of course it's not stupid. They want to validate their position against Agathagelites. But it's stupid when it's collerated with the "GOC-SiR" talk as something against RTOC. Many of the GOCs whose residence is in the territories of the RTOC, go to RTOC parishes. So, for pure pastoral reasons the GOC-CII is seeking for a formal and canonical union with RTOC for the sake of their folk outside Greece.

GOCTheophan wrote:
Many in Greece and elsewhere believe firmly that SiR is an asset of the Lodge. Some of their "Bishops" promote the satanic harry potter books which prepare the way for the antichrist.

Mere hearsay..!

Cyprian · Post by **Cyprian** » Mon 17 March 2008 10:45 pm

If one makes the assertion that the RTOC has anathematized the errors of Kyprianos, one should be prepared to support that assertion with some kind of documentary evidence.

So I humbly request once again: where is the evidence that RTOC has anathematized Kyprianism?

Thank you.