the dream about the resurrection of the Holy Russian Church

[Despotovac]

What keeps the separated anticyprian's parts of the True Russian Orthodoxy ROCIE, RTOC, ROAC from the convocation of the All-Russian Council in order to make an agreement and unit, and to choose a Patriarch? Is it possible at all to dream about such a resurrection of the Holy Russian Church?

[L.M.P.]

What keeps them separated? Disagreements on a personal basis...
Needless to mention their fanatism with their "super correctness"

"to choose a Patriarch?" You've gotta be kiding...
that is not an option, that is not a solution to their inner problems.

[Kybihetz21]

It is very sad, but it has already been said: personal disagreements, ambitions, and power, among other banal reasons, are the main causes that the Russian Church is still so divided. I still remember when it was “just” ROCOR, the Paris Jurisdiction, the OCA and the MP (probably there is someone out there that remembers the times when we – ROCOR – had 6 + Metropolitans and the only other Russian “Church” was the Soviet one.)

Sadly, there are so many “canonical”, “semi canonical”, and “non canonical” groups out there, that one is filled with despair just at the idea of it.

I don’t believe that the thought of a Patriarch of the Russian Church is so extreme, but that could only be accomplished once that all the groups other than the MP and her allies have united into one, forming a strong and steadfast jurisdiction, that will help both the Russian people and the Orthodox faithful elsewhere to maintain our Faith.

[Ekaterina]

Funny thing is that no one wants to stop and consider that perhaps all those factions that are fighting and destroying the faithful with their greed and ambition and "righteousness" ....well that they were not meant to be.

That part of the Church that has been mending it's relationship and acting in an Orthodox manner seems to have remained cohesive while all that broke away have fallen into ever increasing pieces until there is almost nothing left.

Face it people...God did not answer your ferverent prayers to stop the union. (Not all things asked for in Jesus' name are good for us.) Perhaps we need to stop and consider that this is what HE wanted, inspite of our wishes.

Katya

[Kybihetz21]

Archbishop Nikodim of Richmond (ROCOR) of blessed memory once said “better no Church than the Soviet Church”.

As someone that has lived in both worlds, I cannot understand how the union of ROCOR (L) with the MP would be God pleasing. The idea that the so called union took place because Christ “blessed” it is absolutely preposterous. You could argue then that God wished for Constantinople to fall, for the Roman Church to become schismatic and heretic, the New Calendar and the Soviet Revolution to occur, and so on. Tragedies (because all of those are nothing else but calamities) occur thanks to our sins, not because God desires them to happen. In some way I do agree that the union was good, because it allowed us to see who were really faithful to the true Orthodox Church of Russia, and who were simply there for personal gain and honor.

We all have our different opinions regarding Church policies, and I will try not to enter into unnecessary arguments about who is right and who is wrong. Most of the time the internet becomes a war field for Christians to fight each other and prove their own correctness. I personally find this to be completely pointless, since at the end nobody will accept the other’s point of view, and such discussions just help those interested or new in the Faith to be scandalized at the behavior of the so called Christians. Venom only pleases the deceiver.

[Varsanufios]

What keeps the separated anticyprian's parts of the True Russian Orthodoxy ROCIE, RTOC, ROAC from the convocation of the All-Russian Council in order to make an agreement and unit, and to choose a Patriarch? Is it possible at all to dream about such a resurrection of the Holy Russian Church?

What keeps ewery synod of thrulyortodox christian churces to leave ther own selfishnest
and get line front aginst heresy of ecumenizm?

[L.M.P.]

Maybe my dear frushka gora, they are not so "trulyortodox christians" as they claim. Maybe their genuiness is only superficial..