I will never read Br. Nathanael's blogs again.

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Priest Siluan wrote:

Mr. Kapner is no longer a True Orthodox Christian, but an ecumenist and segianist. I have also heard that he is no longer a ROAC member but a "Jerusalem Patriarchate" Member under "Patriarch" Irineios. So he has betrayed his rightly conffessing bishops and the True Orthodoxy.

I agree with you dear father! Check the below link:
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.ph ... =21&part=2

Here, Mr. Kapner admits that "HOCNA" is a CULT, when at the same time in his blog characterizes them as "confessing bishops"..!

Furthermore admits that he is under the ecumenist Irineos.
And you obviously can notice how easily he got mad at someone that criticized him..! I hope he felt some of the pain he caused to Bishop Chrystodoulos.
I'm convinced that the man is under the influence of Zionists (needless to say he is a Zionist himself..) and he is intentionally placed among the Traditionalists in order to bring the ultimate disaster..! He ridicules our beloved Jesus on a daily basis by holding the Holy Cross and shaking his body like a lady ..


Kapner is a THREAT for Orthodoxy! Kapner is a PARASITE! We should all ignore him..

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Jean-Serge wrote:

I fear that Brother Nathanael is manipulated by many different prople who provide him inaccurate information...

First of all, why do people refer to Natheniel as "brother"? He us not a brother. He was a novice. He is no longer a novice. He is a nutt. I can't believe anyone even takes him seriously. Just go to youtube and watch him dance on the streets to rock music. The guy is clearly demon-influenced.

As for Dormition Skete, I can only give my own testimony. I have known them since 1993. They have always been loving and friendly to me. Vladia-Gregory payed for my chiropractic expenses when I was visiting there, and never asked for one penney back. He confesses true canonical Orthodoxy. Those who attack him due so because they don't love the Church. They love the world and the spirit of compromise.

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Oh, and Bishop Chrystodoulos is awesome! I talked to him once and he sends me e-mails. He is a true man of God and a prayer warrior. Many years to Vladika Christodoulos and Vladika Gregory! /\

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As of late Nathaniel is a member of Rocor-psca

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Re: I will never read Br. Nathanael's blogs again.

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Does anyone know the status of Mr. Kapner these days?

He claims to be with ROCOR... He calls himself a monk and signs his name as Brother Nathanael.

Is it true that he is not really a monk?

Have you all seen his new website here @ Real Zionist News ?

And what do you all make of his new site?

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Re: I will never read Br. Nathanael's blogs again.

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I love that nice insignia! BEAUTIFUL avatar too! I really like that. Is that Kazan and Vladimir Icons on top?
I feel bad that you were kicked off a site - it shows how the World Orthodox have slid so far into compromise that you cannot say the obvious truth.

Since Nathanael started the new site, which he renamed from its original Real Jew News, I think he blossomed and found his footing in life.
Before he was awkward and most readers could feel that he was not content with editing Church News. Especially clear when he flipped over to support the union with the MP.
He was chafing at the bit to get out of that and into this.

As for RZN, I usually forget about checking for updates. Maybe 4 or 5 times since he dropped the Old Calendar site, I browsed around and was pleased that someone has been brave enough to examine this drastic problem under a microscope !

It's possible that Nathanael sees a Zionist under every tree where they may be under only every two trees, especially if one includes the Trilateral, etc people.
The point is: he's TRYING to bring out the truth.

I should go back and look at it as I haven't checked for so long.
What keeps me at a distance from it is that he never gave up that defense of Putin and Russia which was so distracting on his livejournal site. He got to the point of a hero cult for Putin, you all remember if you were there then.
He sees Putin as almost a savior for Orthodoxy. But if THAT were true: then why never a word against Zionists -- for example the recent flotilla incident -- from anybody over there? Not a peep that I have yet seen. Whereas of course it's a Muslim leader, Ahmadinejad who fearlessly speaks out against Zionism. He is forceful yet still within the realm of civilized discourse. He never said "I hate those Jews" or anything. He wants freedom for the cruelly oppressed Palestinians and others whose lives have been destroyed - including many Americans ! - by Israeli machinations and wars. Notice how there are few Jewish soldiers in the American military apparently ? They are not the ones dying. Instead they are the ones telling everybody else how they need to fight or pay for or sacrifice for the Israeli strategic benefit.

I think we could have a fascinating discussion on THIS site analyzing this topic. This site should give out the best truth, and become a reliable source for that.
Or, let's say, starting to investigate WHY it is that if something like half the population of Israel speaks Russian - is THIS the reason why
the current Moscow leaders are so reluctant to ever breathe a word against anything Zionist?

I feel they should throw their weight around by COUNTERING the noxious bloc of Israel, its colony of the US and European govts!
If they are going to fight America, THIS is the way of light: to correct mistaken American behavior which is shaping up for a big disaster for many.

Not posturing with Russian-Nationalist rhetoric to save face for the former Soviet power, or missile rumblings.

LaRussophobe is too sympathetic to Israel and Zionists. It's upsetting to read it, though of course they have interesting articles giving insight into life in Russia today.
The editors seem to be too much in the Israeli camp, where everything America or Israel do is flawless.
They had an article disparaging the fact that bright young Russians going to elite schools steadfastly maintain that 9=11 was a setup operation pulled off to advance American-Israeli wars. Those Russians deserve credit for not being fooled by slick lies. I suspect they are sharper than a huge percentage of Americans of the current era. Previous American generations could not be taken in so easily.

Intelligent minds are not satisfied with partial truth.

The other problem with Nathanael's current site is that the polemics get so heated that it's exhausting after awhile to read the comment section
However, good observations are made there and absolutely one can learn and thereby enrich his or her soul.

Thanks for reminding us, I will go back and check RZN. Just remember, Nathanael is TRYING and using whatever methods he can to educate about this most serious defect in the society of the West today.

Did you say he is saying he's under ROCOR-MP now? That's really amazing. Maybe it's a rumor floating around. Remember those priests, Fr Spiridon Schneider and a Fr Christopher somebody who submitted to ROCOR MP MetHilarion Kapral. I wonder if they are still there, or they skipped out to the Tahitian Orthodox under archbishop Golfer and bishop Suntanner.

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Hi again Catherine5,

I feel bad that you were kicked off a site - it shows how the World Orthodox have slid so far into compromise that you cannot say the obvious truth."

I wasn't kicked off... but I was bombarded w/ accusations of 'anti-Semitism'. They are steeped in Pharisaic propaganda.

It's possible that Nathanael sees a Zionist under every tree where they may be under only every two trees, especially if one includes the Trilateral, etc people.
The point is: he's TRYING to bring out the truth."

Well - he knows 'Jews'! He was born and raised in their synagogues. He understands the reality that behind the Trilateral Commissions, Masons, etc - there is to be found 'Jewish' agendas and money power.

What keeps me at a distance from it is that he never gave up that defense of Putin and Russia which was so distracting on his livejournal site. He got to the point of a hero cult for Putin, you all remember if you were there then.
He sees Putin as almost a savior for Orthodoxy. But if THAT were true: then why never a word against Zionists -- for example the recent flotilla incident -- from anybody over there? Not a peep that I have yet seen."

There is in Russia Orthodox Christianity taught in the public schools... Putin has done this! It seems to me that he is attempting to imitate old Byzantium by promoting not separation of Church and State - but rather a symphony of Church and State. I say bravo!

This Wikipedia page lists reactions to the Gaza flotilla raid by nation... Under Russia we see:

President Dmitry Medvedev called for a thorough investigation of the incident and said that, in any case, the deaths of people are irreversible.

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin condemned the assault and expressed concern that it was conducted in international waters.. On June 8, Putin condemned the acts and said it has to be investigated specially, especially since it was on international waters.

The Foreign Ministries of Russia and the EU adopted a joint statement concerning the flotilla attack, which correlates with the UN Security Council activity in the situation.

Russia's Foreign Ministry expressed 'condemnation and profound concern' over the incident and called for a full investigation. It also called the use of 'use of arms against civilians and the detention of the vessels on the high seas without any legal grounds constitute a gross violation of generally accepted international legal norms.'

The head of the Russian State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee, Konstantin Kosachev, called for an 'urgent meeting' of the Middle East Quartet to discuss the incident."

You wrote:

Did you say he is saying he's under ROCOR-MP now? That's really amazing. Maybe it's a rumor floating around."

I have had very limited e-mail correspondance w/ Mr. Kapner and he signed as "Brother Nathanael, ROCOR"...

What I would like to know is this: Is he really a monk?

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