CHRIST IS RISEN!
Archangel,
Who are you addressing? I don't support women ordinations. Never have. I was talking about the male chauvinist attitude that twists Christ's teachings. This attitude is a contribution to the way men view women...hence the sick perception in our society today.
Read my words carefully.
Joanna
Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)
The truth of the matter is that God made women to be subservient to men. They were created to serve man and to give him pleasure. Even as adults, women are like children. They are primarily driven by emotion and the obsessive need to fulfill their God given command to belong to a man and have his children.
The Islamists may have gone too far in some areas (i.e., women as simply property), but they alone have upheld the historical AND biblical understanding of women and their purpose for being created.
I find it interesting that Joasia has a problem with the Church's majority historical teachings concerning women, yet attacks like a pit bull, screaming "Holy Fathers = Divinely Inspired!" when others disagree with the teachings that SHE decides are correct or make her feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
You cannot pick and choose; it's either all correct or it just may be ALL WRONG.
Which is it, my dear?
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They say that I am bad news. They say "Stay Away."
joasia wrote:This attitude is a contribution to the way men view women...hence the sick perception in our society today.
Joanna
Wait a minute. Are you saying that women had it better in the past than they do now? That the perception of women in today's society is more sick than it was 1,000 years ago? When it was common and an accepted fact that women were one of the better spoils of war?
Face it, women were created to be objects desired by men. This was done on purpose by GOD to ensure that His creation was able to survive. That is their primary REASON for being created; to serve as baby machines. The truth is that ONLY in the last century have men allowed women to create this sick unnatural state of women being "equal to men"
Western society presents a more "positive" perception of women today than in any other time in history! The sad truth is that this state in UNNATURAL!
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They say that I am bad news. They say "Stay Away."
Sorry: to whom it may concern:
Whoever thinks that women are the objects of male pleasure, should find another religion. God made male and female in the image of God. They are ontologically equal. The are of equal worth. At the same time, he gave them different tasks and equipped them to do it. Their functions differ. God made the man for leadership. He made the woman as his help-mate. This relationship is not limited to place or circumstance, but is absolute.
From this alone it follows that women cannot be priests.
Incidentally, sarcasm solves no problems. No, women were not made as "baby-machines." In any case, she is the one human being who can beget children; and men alone sire them. But more than this, men an women must cooperate the attainment of salvation. That is the whole purpose of life, the who purpose of marriage.
CHRIST IS RISEN!
I find it interesting that Joasia has a problem with the Church's majority historical teachings concerning women, yet attacks like a pit bull, screaming "Holy Fathers = Divinely Inspired!" when others disagree with the teachings that SHE decides are correct or make her feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Tom, I never had a problem with that. And I never stated that. I don't attack an issue. I address it.
You, on the other hand, can't cope with Christian reality. You have your own issues, I know...but, they don't do you much justice here. You just expose yourself for what you really are, every...time...you...post.
In Christ, Joanna
Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)
TomS wrote:The truth of the matter is that God made women to be subservient to men. They were created to serve man and to give him pleasure. Even as adults, women are like children. They are primarily driven by emotion and the obsessive need to fulfill their God given command to belong to a man and have his children.
The Islamists may have gone too far in some areas (i.e., women as simply property), but they alone have upheld the historical AND biblical understanding of women and their purpose for being created.
I find it interesting that Joasia has a problem with the Church's majority historical teachings concerning women, yet attacks like a pit bull, screaming "Holy Fathers = Divinely Inspired!" when others disagree with the teachings that SHE decides are correct or make her feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
You cannot pick and choose; it's either all correct or it just may be ALL WRONG.
Which is it, my dear?
In all seriousness little man Tom, your well asserted misogyny is disgusting. Do you not have any sisters? Is your mother a mere
baby machine? Because if your mother is a baby machine that would make you no better than a screw driver produced off an assembly line.
If you think women are here merely to give you and bigots like yourself pleasure you are mistaken. Your stance makes me think that you have never actually spent time with a woman and if you have she was of the mail order variety. In the oh so exotic habitation you live in .........Maryland. This is not the 6th century and you are not a Slavic prince. Did you choose orthodoxy because it would give you a chance to hide behind centuries of non progression? Or were you born into orthodoxy and your view of women is influenced by an eastern European mindset that is unaffected by the enlightenment.
Why is it that there are generally speaking 100 female saints and 400 male saints in the western tradition but, only .........uh ....St. Martha, and St. Nina in the eastern tradition compared to the endless list of male saints. There is some definite cultural misogyny going on there. Oh, but no other females exemplified the life Christ or the Apostles, so we could only beatify those few. Pure cultural misogyny, no different than Muslims in Morocco or Saudi Arabia. Put your veil on and shut up.
Your bile irritates me like you wouldn't believe.
So, was the Blessed Virgin Mary a baby machine?
Oh no! Tom S says she is the one woman who wasn't a baby machine. Sounds like heresy to me. Are you implying immaculate conception?
