Which jurisdiction are you?

[George Australia]

I could be wrong, but wasn't there a miracle that occured and settled the council?

You are correct. It was St. Euphemia. The account of the miracle can be found here: http://home.iprimus.com.au/xenos/euphemia.html

[Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse]

I am already Orthodox, and have been for four years.

Peace.

Er... no you are not, you are in a monophysite heretical church.

In Him
SB

[GOCTheophan]

Roy if you believe that the council of Chalcedon contradicts in essence the Council of Ephesus than why that Icon of Blessed Seraphim?

My name is not Roy and my point was that it's just as easy to accuse Chalcedonians of heresy as non-Chalcedonians. Ultimately, it's an immature cheap shot that has little to do with whether one's Christology is actually Orthodox.

Surely by that reckoning he can only be a heretic and doubly so seeing as he considered the anti-Chalcedonians to be heretics?

It would be incorrect to say that either miaphysitism or dyophysitism are heretical given that they are both, properly interpreted, legitimately Orthodox Christologies.

What about this do you monophysites not grasp? What in this do you see as heresy?

It's not a matter of whether or not the Chalcedonian Confession is heretical as much as it is whether the Council itself was justified in excommunicating the Oriental Orthodox.

If we really were Monophysite heretics, then so was St. Cyril of Alexandria and everyone in Ephesus who accepted his Christology, including Eastern Orthodox fathers.

Peace.

Pensees the "Fathers" on your side were quiet happy to call us heretics and our Church has spoken through an ecumenical Council anathemizing you and your "Fathers" naming them as heretics...What would be an immature and cheap shot would be for me to say that Ecumemical councils do not express the Mind of the Church and that I know better than the saints who confessed that you are indeed a heretic unto the shedding of their blood.

Theophan.

[nickg]

I could be wrong, but wasn't there a miracle that occured and settled the council?

You are correct. It was St. Euphemia. The account of the miracle can be found here: http://home.iprimus.com.au/xenos/euphemia.html

Great link!

[Sean]

If you want to become Orthodox (which is the Eastern Church)

I am already Orthodox, and have been for four years. The canonical jurisdictions of Eastern Orthodoxy are recognizing the common Orthodoxy shared with Oriental Orthodox Christians, if they haven't done so already.
http://www.orthodoxunity.org/statements.html

Again, if we are guilty of the Monophysite heresy, then so was St. Cyril and every Eastern Orthodox father who accepted his Christology in Ephesus.

If you want my opinion, I think that once a month or whenever possible, you should drive 4 hours to Seattle to St. Nektarios Cathedral.

I am not leaving the Indian Orthodox Church in favor of a zealously "Orthodox" cult that condones sexual predators. I'd rather join the OCA or the (canonical) Greek Orthodox Church than do that. I hope you someday realize that there is nothing lacking in "World Orthodoxy" that HOCNA could provide.

Peace.

Please refrain from passing judgements on people you know little to nothing about! This proves you know nothing of the Greek Old Calendarist churches. Anyone visiting a World Orthodox parish who attends a True Orthodox parish will tell you that before they even noticed a difference in externals (of which there are many), that they immediately felt a different spirit in these churches.

[Pensees]

I am already Orthodox, and have been for four years.

Peace.

Er... no you are not, you are in a monophysite heretical church.

In Him
SB

Again, our church is not Monophysite and never has been, but holds to the Cyrillian Christology as accepted in the Council of Ephesus. If we are guilty of the Monophysite heresy, then so was St. Cyril and every Eastern Orthodox father who accepted his Christology.

Do you even know what the Council of Ephesus was? If so, was that a "Monophysite" Council?

The Oriental churches have refused and rejected the teaching of Eutyches. They believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is perfect in His divinity and perfect in His humanity, yet His divinity parted not from His humanity not for a single moment nor a twinkle of an eye. The Oriental Churches did not accept the two separate natures of Jesus Christ that was advocated in Chalcedonian Council. The Oriental Orthodox Churches have accepted the formula of faith made by St. Cyril "One nature for the incarnated God the Word" (Miaphysitism). Our belief is Jesus Christ, Him being perfectly divine and perfectly human and these two natures are united together without confusion, without mingling, and without alteration (miaphysitism).
http://www.suscopts.org

Please, just for a moment, use your brain and learn some history instead of espousing blind sectarianism.

Peace.

[Pensees]

What would be an immature and cheap shot would be for me to say that Ecumemical councils do not express the Mind of the Church and that I know better than the saints who confessed that you are indeed a heretic unto the shedding of their blood.

If the Council of Ephesus expressed the Mind of the Church in accepting the Miaphysite Christology of St. Cyril, what need was there for the Council of Chalcedon?

Peace.