Abp ANTHONY (ORLOFF) has become First-Hierach of RusOC-A

[Anastasios]

I have it on VERY good authority that this gentleman is still married. So, if true, does that mean the so-called "tradotionalists" are starting a new tradition?

Nicholas Trahan

Nicholas he has a Church divorce.

Given that World Orthodox Bishops are mainly homosexual I think this is really the pot calling the kettle black when its actually a shade of grey.

Theophan.

Does he have a church divorce? Is his wife a nun? Was he ordained in a cell outside liturgy with no witnesses? Is it true that when you call his house his wife still answers the phone? I'd like to know the answers to this.

[尼古拉前执事]

If anyone wants to call, according to the ROCiE web site (so this information is already public), this is his phone number: +1(818)892-2517

[spiridon]

that is Vladykas cellphone, and yes his wife is a nun now, and he was elevated to the Episcopate after Divine Liturgy in the witness of atleast 2 vladykas overseas including Vladyka Vladimir, what happened in mansonville at the cell and outside of Divine Liturgy was an in Person Blessing by Vladyka Met.Vitaly of Blessed Memory...all this is in the website

[GOCTheophan]

[Was he ordained in a cell outside liturgy with no witnesses? Is it true that when you call his house his wife still answers the phone? I'd like to know the answers to this.

The idea that his wife answers the phone when you ring his house was put out by someone called "Geniune Orthodox" who has a Uk and Ireland Yahoo address but does not belong to any of the True Orthodox Churches here and definitely not the Florinite branch of the Greek Church who they imply they are members of here who I all know personally and outside of me and Vladimir have no concerns at all with the net (even Vladimir's concern with it is very limited).

Also there are very good reasons to believe that they are behind quite vile parodies of novice Nathanael, they certainly have a vehement hatred for him. I believe that this person could well be an agent of something (the Lavrites? the FSB? the Freemasons? the Church of England? Who knows?) sent to put forward the dangerous heresy that there will be Bishops until the end of time, an error beloved of psuedo-Christianity. At one stage I speculated that it could be an ex-girlfriend of mine even. All that is besides the point and in the realms of speculation. Spiridon who personally knows Vladikya has supplied the correct information.

Until this person comes clean about exactly who and what they are everything they say must be taken with a pinch of salt to say the least.

I would like to know much more why the insane ramblings of heretic John Romanides are given a link and therefore an endorsement by our American Metropolia? Lets take the beam out of our jurisdiction's eye before attacking commenting on other people's splinters.

Theophan.

[Anastasios]

The idea that his wife answers the phone when you ring his house was put out by someone called "Geniune Orthodox" who has a Uk and Ireland Yahoo address but does not belong to any of the True Orthodox Churches here and definitely not the Florinite branch of the Greek Church who they imply they are members of here who I all know personally and outside of me and Vladimir have no concerns at all with the net (even Vladimir's concern with it is very limited).

How are you sure of this? Is it true or false? That is all I want to know.

Also there are very good reasons to believe that they are behind quite vile parodies of novice Nathanael, they certainly have a vehement hatred for him.

Are you referring to the subdemon milty blog?

I believe that this person could well be an agent of something (the Lavrites? the FSB? the Freemasons? the Church of England? Who knows?)

And who is to say Nathanael is not an agent of someone?

sent to put forward the dangerous heresy that there will be Bishops until the end of time, an error beloved of psuedo-Christianity.

What?! PSEUDO Christianity? That is Orthodoxy 101: Where the bishop is, there is the Church. You will need to explain this one further.

All that is besides the point and in the realms of speculation. Spiridon who personally knows Vladikya has supplied the correct information.

Did he post it here? If so I missed it. I certainly HOPE it is not true that he is still living with his wife. Even so, his uncanonical ordination in secret (which is obvious when one reads the account of him later being accepted by his brother bishops on the ROCiE official site) is more scandalous to me than that, and his recent "appointment" as "Metropolitan" of "Moscow" is the icing on the cake. What nonsense.

I would like to know much more why the insane ramblings of heretic John Romanides are given a link and therefore an endorsement by our American Metropolia? Lets take the beam out of our jurisdiction's eye before attacking commenting on other people's splinters.

Theophan.

Nice attempt to derail the discussion. I'm not taking the bait.

Anastasios

[Anastasios]

that is Vladykas cellphone, and yes his wife is a nun now, and he was elevated to the Episcopate after Divine Liturgy in the witness of atleast 2 vladykas overseas including Vladyka Vladimir, what happened in mansonville at the cell and outside of Divine Liturgy was an in Person Blessing by Vladyka Met.Vitaly of Blessed Memory...all this is in the website

You can't be ordained outside of a liturgy. Thanks for providing testimony that this man is clearly not a bishop.

Anastasios

[尼古拉前执事]

If anyone wants to call, according to the ROCiE web site (so this information is already public), this is his phone number: +1(818)892-2517

In hopes of clearing this up, I called the number and after about 10 rings an answering machine answered and a baba/yiayia's voice said something like that they were not there and to leave a message.

Unfortunately, that call did not clear up any confusion.