An Interesting hocna Site...

[jasonr]

Your obligation?

Then perhaps when each HOCNA clergy, monastic and layperson faces judgement, The Lord will turn to you for advice regarding their salvation since it is obvious you are such an excellent resource on their
"true" nature.

[Kollyvas]

Not seeking to descend into the realm of mutual recriminations, I direct the thread to content.

Secondly, every Baptized and Chrismated Orthodox Christian has an obligation for the good order of the Church. This is what the Fathers teach.

Thirdly, sexual predators, rasputins, MUST be excised from Orthodoxy if the Orthodox witness of the various "nations" in this country is to have any legitimacy. I regard the victims and would be victims.

R

[joasia]

mlillios wrote:

Has to get out? It has been out for two decades; nothing on the site is new.

Which is even more shocking...considering that nobody has done anything about it and Panteleimon is still on the loose...what a disgrace to monastism.

Perhaps you are new to the faith; in that case, every Orthodox priest will tell you that Great Lent should be spent pondering our own unworthy, sinful and wretched lives, not pointing fingers at the sins of others and distributing "information" on their failings.

Let that be a consolation to the victims who have to live with the memory,even during Great Lent.

jasonr wrote:

Then perhaps when each HOCNA clergy, monastic and layperson faces judgement, The Lord will turn to you for advice regarding their salvation since it is obvious you are such an excellent resource on their
"true" nature.

So do you know anything to add to it? Do you know the "true" nature of their resources?

Even we in Montreal know of Panteleimon's indiscretions. It is filthy and disgusting. But, apparently, it just seems like just another bad habit, to some.

People should be warned. This is a well-known fact, as has been indicated. Therefore, it cannot be ignored.

[jasonr]

meh... this really is pointless, but since you're asking....

I am not privy to anything that hasn't been publicly available for quite some time now. However, I am willing to acknowledge that there are two sides to every story, no matter what the circumstances are.

Also, I am willing to consider the source when it comes to such things. By the look of it, both Archbishop Gregory and Brother Nathaniel (who we all know and love, right?) appear to have had their hands in the hocna.info cookie jar...

At anyrate.. I try to not be one to believe everything I read....particularly on the internet.

have a nice lenten season!

-j

[Kollyvas]

Sure seems like the canonical requirement of two or three witnesses has been meet. To assert the "other side" is in the right is to maintain that multiple witnesses and synodeias are lying. The more logical conclusion is that the weight of the charges goes against the accused. Again, it seems some of these charges were indeed admitted before an inquiry of Bishops...
R

[Justin Kissel]

You should just admit that homosexuality isn't a sin. That certainly wouldn't fix the problem, but it'd be a huge step in the right direction.

[Edward]

Justin,

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It seems you are suddenly obsessed with the whole "homosexual" issue because on most of your posts, you have been telling us that it is not a sin. I read your blog and it seems that you have ceased to believe in the Orthodox Christian faith. If your loss of faith is due to being on this site so often, then that is a real tragedy.

Secondly, why do you feel it necessary to bring attention to the fact that you do not believe that homosexuality is a sin? Are you that desperate for attention?

The mission of the Orthodox Church is not the defeat of the "homosexual agenda", but the salvation of mankind.

Edward