Iconophili's Great Big Thread of Conspiracies!

The resting place of threads that were very valid in 2004, but not so much in 2024. Basically this is a giant historical archive.


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CGW wrote:
ICONOPHILI wrote:

1. It doesn't take hundreds of thousands, just the top learders, of the Military and Government, (The simple fact I have to explain this shows you CAN be lead to believe "FANTASTIC LIES" http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4525

Let's go to the link:

The photos below from a Closed Circuit Television Camera in the Pentagon's parking area show something impact against the Pentagon�s walls on 9/11 2001. However, as can be seen these images show absolutely no sign of American Airlines Flight 77.

In other words it could have been caused by anything, even a missile.

Now, back to a message I posted six days ago:

Let's go to the eyewitnesses for a minute. One of the things one might notice on these conspiracy sites is that the same small set of pictures and statements appears over and over. One might think that only a few people saw the Pentagon plane, for instance.

So we go to an official government response to one of the conspiracy theorists. Near the bottom of the page is a list of twenty-five or so eyewitness statements. The plane is identified as an American Airlines jet in all but a handful of these. The two people who identified it as a commuter plane were at considerable distances, and the "cruise missile" identification was cherry-picked out of Mike Walter's account, in which he specifically identifies the plane as an American Airlines jet. Moreover, the remains found at the accident site tally with the passenger roster of Flight 77.

The truth is that nobody has to rely upon a security camera taking pcitures at one second intervals (I watched the "film", Iconophili, and about all it's good enough for is to show that something hit the pentagon). There were dozens of eyewitnesses who testified to fact of an airliner. You already know this, yet you just keep repeating the same old stuff. When I refute something you've claimed (the witnesses, the absence of the commission report on-line) you don't even have the Christian decency to admit your sins.

This is worthwhile for me when it leads me to new sources of evidence and the like. But when you just reuse old garbage, you're not worth anyone's time.

HOW am I wrong, 1. What I was stating was that the Gov never explained on T.V. or in "The 9/11 Comission Report" how, the "Supposed" terrorists managed to fly, the 757/767's when they trained to fly "Cessnas" not 757's, I stated that I couldn't find "The 9/11 Comission Report" on the net, looks like it can be found, that doesn't proove that, in the book, (Like I said before) The Gov explained 1.How the "supposed" terrorists flew the 757/767's, 2. How the Cell phones worlked at 25,000/30,000 feet? SO you didn't proove nothing, now go to page 8 in the "Iconophili's Great Big Thread of Conspiracies" Section look at my Feb 22, 2006 Post Notice who I posted that site that showd the Pebntagon Video Crash, look before the Gov showed it, Yesterday 05/16/06 was the first time the Gov showed it, notice the site I posted had it before, now 1. Also that site says that, what went into the Pentagon could have been a large cruise missile that was designed to look like a small version of a 767, but it was not a real 767 that went into the Pentagon, so maybe it was a Cruise missile that the Gov designed to look like a 767, and what half of the Eye witnesses saw was that, the other half of those "supposed" eye witnesses I believe are Gov agents told to say the saw a 767 going into the Pentagon. Go and look at my 02/22/06 post on page 8 so you'll see I'm not lying I did post that. SO ALL IN ALL 1. You haven't shown in the "9/11 Comission Report" that the Gov DID exlain how they mannaged to fly the planes, AND 2. Who did the Cell phone work at 25,000/30,000 feet??

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Also that site says that, what went into the Pentagon could have been a large cruise missile that was designed to look like a small version of a 767, but it was not a real 767 that went into the Pentagon, so maybe it was a Cruise missile that the Gov designed to look like a 767, and what half of the Eye witnesses saw was that, the other half of those "supposed" eye witnesses I believe are Gov agents told to say the saw a 767 going into the Pentagon.

And maybe it was a pterodactyl painted in American Airlines colors, but somehow I doubt it.

Or maybe a highly trained flock of pigeons carrying a large bomb, but I doubt that too.

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CGW wrote:

Also that site says that, what went into the Pentagon could have been a large cruise missile that was designed to look like a small version of a 767, but it was not a real 767 that went into the Pentagon, so maybe it was a Cruise missile that the Gov designed to look like a 767, and what half of the Eye witnesses saw was that, the other half of those "supposed" eye witnesses I believe are Gov agents told to say the saw a 767 going into the Pentagon.

And maybe it was a pterodactyl painted in American Airlines colors, but somehow I doubt it.

Or maybe a highly trained flock of pigeons carrying a large bomb, but I doubt that too.

YOU'RE DEFEATED AGAIN, You still haven't shown, that the Gov DID provide the explaination of how the "Supposed" terrorists flew the planes and the cell phones worked, which, prooves what I was saying, CONSPIROUCY, :bump:

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I don't need to prove it, Iconophili. That it happened is the best proof possible.

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Dear Iconophilli,

You say the government hasn't shown how the terrorists flew 757s, even though people with flight experience will tell you it is easy.

Yet you have yet to explain how many people are involved in the conspiracy, how they covered it up, how they fired missiles, how they rigged demolitions, how they diverted planes, how they managed to bribe and bamboozle hundreds of consultants, contractors, and soldiers into doing their will, who THEY are, how THEY operate, who funds them and what THEIR motive is -i.e. WHY. And if you tell me its to reduce oil costs - then THEY ARE MORONS cause gas is at $2.80/gal. If you tell me its to raise gas prices, back to the Middle East.

"THEY" stems from a demon called paranoia - and if you want to be cured of such a demon, go to CHURCH.

OTOH - Osama Bin Laden who bragged about doing it is a billionaire with an entire terror organization with films, whose operatives trained on the 757/767 flight deck and paid for the lessons etc....

And yes, Osama Bin Laden once received funds from the CIA as did all Mujahadeen who were fighting the Soviets. Big deal.

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Andy wrote:

gas is at $2.80/gal.

Wow! is that all?......it was at $3.26/gal this week on Long Island.

Milla

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He must be going to the Hess station on Pulaski Highway. For some reason they are always a lot cheaper than anyone else around. The goind rate around here (outside Balto.) is more like $3.05.

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