Iconophili's Great Big Thread of Conspiracies!

[CGW]

I knew you would talk about the "socalled" tapes showing the highjackers, WHAT HIghjackers, 1. Security Cams at Airports especially Dulles, have DATES and Times on them, these didn't, why? = Because thats not the Highjackers at Dulles, Notice the pictures are TOO blurry to identify if it was Muhammed ATTAH & Friends

It doesn't matter whether wecurity tapes in general report dates and times; it only matters whether the cameras in question did so at that place and time. Since the tapes in question are the only evidence you hae on the question, your objection is unsupported. Indeed, I can hypothesize that being able to see more of the field is a more important consideration than having the date and time recorded on the tape.

And you haven't ever seen the tapes. All you have ever seen are the highly degraded online copies which are surely not legitimately obtained, but instead are (I would imagine) captures from recordings of broadcast transmissions of parts of the tape. Or perhaps they are scans from magazines. In any case, there's no reason to believe that the original tapes are as bad as what we see on these websites. Of course, the purveyors of these websites have an interest in selecting the worst possible images, so they can't be trusted anyway.

[AndyHolland]

1. How did the passangers use thier cell phones , from 25,000 feet when cell phones can't be used from above 4000 feet?

1. These supposed highjackers never were trained to fly 757/767's how
   did they miraculesly fly the planes and turn the plane around and find NYC, BEFORE THE HIGHJACKING, THE REAL PILOTS DIDN'T ANOUNCE WHERE THEY specifically WERE, 3. WHY DIDN'T ANY OF THE PASSANGERS, make a move on the highjackers, when they were only armed with 2" knives, how did the Gov know they only had 2" Knives?

1. Your assertion (1) is incorrect. You forgot AIRFONES that are confused with cell phones, Tod Beamer, Chuck Colson's conversation with his wife (Airfone which he called a cell phone) etc.... Also, cell phones do in fact work, and apparently do work better at higher altitude due to switching. In all instances they do not work well though, but people illegally use them on commercial flights.

2. Flying a plane once in the air is about as hard as driving a car. They followed the roads BTW. They flew on clear days so they could navigate with the roads - that is why it was in broad daylight on clear days. They didn't need to land. They were specifically professionally trained on the flight decks they hijacked at flight schools. This is well documented.

3. The passengers were told the highjackers had bombs. On Flight 93, thanks to AIRFONES, Tod Beamer and company knew to fight back and did.

Finally, the gov't knew there were not bombs on the planes because nobody would bother taking a bomb on a plane that they were going to crash and risk detection. The Passengers on Flight 93 figured this out and fought back. They had been told there were bombs on the plane.

These Hoaxes could cause harm to families.

andy holland
sinner

[ICONOPHILI]

I knew you would talk about the "socalled" tapes showing the highjackers, WHAT HIghjackers, 1. Security Cams at Airports especially Dulles, have DATES and Times on them, these didn't, why? = Because thats not the Highjackers at Dulles, Notice the pictures are TOO blurry to identify if it was Muhammed ATTAH & Friends

It doesn't matter whether wecurity tapes in general report dates and times; it only matters whether the cameras in question did so at that place and time. Since the tapes in question are the only evidence you hae on the question, your objection is unsupported. Indeed, I can hypothesize that being able to see more of the field is a more important consideration than having the date and time recorded on the tape.

And you haven't ever seen the tapes. All you have ever seen are the highly degraded online copies which are surely not legitimately obtained, but instead are (I would imagine) captures from recordings of broadcast transmissions of parts of the tape. Or perhaps they are scans from magazines. In any case, there's no reason to believe that the original tapes are as bad as what we see on these websites. Of course, the purveyors of these websites have an interest in selecting the worst possible images, so they can't be trusted anyway.

Thank You fo prooving Once and For ALL, that you don't know what your talking about, 1. ALL of my info reguarding, the "Ommissions & Discrepancies" of the Gov's Story, come from the "9/11 Commision Report" which uses the Fussy Pictures that we saw on T.V. as the Evidence that Atta & Friends were supposedly at Dulles, on 9/11, this CLEARLY Shows that you have not, read "The 9/11 Commision" report there are doesens of books written after it came out showing almost 100 "Omissions" the Gov gave in that report, http://www.vialls.com/wtc/clueless.html AND don't try and divert attention away from the facts in that link, by using the 'ol , ( "Well this author is asking for money, so that shows he has no credibility" ) Excuse, that you always do. :mrgreen:

[Ekaterina]

Someone earlier posted the question if this took the prize for the number of posts and hits........

In recent history....I did not go beyaond the first page of each topic...

This takes the cake in the number of postings......467 give or take.
So far the hits parade is roughly at fifth place. Harry Potter was third and the one on bishop wants us to stop watching TV was fourth.

However, I am heartened that the "tell about your saint" posting has the most hits at 10755, followed by the prologue at 8248......

[AndyHolland]

Believe it or not, other than Iconophili I know a medical doctor who believes that rubish as well.

Both have not been exposed to internet hoaxes to realize that college kids play pranks and tell fibs for fun.

When I was in school, we had many of the nuclear engineering students going to the office to "confess" that they had dismantled a "valuble" computer. In fact it was a junked machine and students had taken parts from it.

Another fellow and I wrote a fake memo warning about the destruction of valuable property. The professors - realizing the joke, played the poor students who came in to "confess". It was a typical senior prank (a lie), that netted "laughs" afterwards.

These hoaxes about 9-11, including the cruise missile - etc, are like the one mentioned above, not very funny for those involved.

But as PT Barnum put it, there is a sucker born every minute.

This subject matter includes a very real war, very real casualties (3000 in the US) and very real widows and orphans - as well as those who are easily taken in by lies.

andy holland
sinner

[CGW]

1. ALL of my info reguarding, the "Ommissions & Discrepancies" of the Gov's Story, come from the "9/11 Commision Report"(.)

You haven't linked to it a single time, as far as I recall, so I don't believe you. You're getting this all from secondary sites.

AND don't try and divert attention away from the facts in that link, by using the 'ol , ( "Well this author is asking for money, so that shows he has no credibility" ) Excuse, that you always do.

Give us a quote where I used that excuse, and don't forget to link to the post so we can check up on you.

[ICONOPHILI]

1. ALL of my info reguarding, the "Ommissions & Discrepancies" of the Gov's Story, come from the "9/11 Commision Report"(.)

You haven't linked to it a single time, as far as I recall, so I don't believe you. You're getting this all from secondary sites.

AND don't try and divert attention away from the facts in that link, by using the 'ol , ( "Well this author is asking for money, so that shows he has no credibility" ) Excuse, that you always do.

Give us a quote where I used that excuse, and don't forget to link to the post so we can check up on you.

The 9/11 Comission report as far as I know is not on the net, so you'll have to get the Book, the simple fact that you even wanted me to show a link also prooves, YOU are the one who doesn't know what's going on, ofyou did you would have read it your self, BTW why haven't you read it, it's a the "OFFICIAL" Version, that you THINK is correct.