And today i walk away from not only the Russian Orthodox

spiridon · Post by **spiridon** » Thu 11 May 2006 11:55 pm

Νικολάος Διάκ wrote:
SAN FRANCISCO: May 11, 2006

Resolution of the IV All-Diaspora Council of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia

We, the participants of the IV All-Diaspora Council, having gathered in the God-preserved city of San Francisco, in the blessed presence of the Protectress of the Russian Diaspora, the Kursk-Root Icon of the Mother of God, and the holy relics of Saint John of Shanghai and San Francisco, in trembling recognition of the duty laid upon us, in obedience to our Archpastor, Christ, with complete trust and love of the pastors and laity to our First Hierarch, His Eminence Metropolitan Laurus, and the Council of Bishops, attest that as loyal children of the Holy Church, we shall submit to Divine will and obey the decisions of the forthcoming Council of Bishops.

We archpastors, pastors and laymen, members of the IV All-Diaspora Council, unanimously express our resoluteness to heal the wounds of division within the Russian Church—between her parts in the Fatherland and abroad. Our Paschal joy is joined by the great hope that in the appropriate time, the unity of the Russian Church will be restored upon the foundation of the Truth of Christ, opening for us the possibility to serve together and to commune from one Chalice.

Hearing the lectures read at the Council, the reports made by the Commission on negotiations with the corresponding Commission of the Moscow Patriarchate, and the various points of view expressed during the discussions, we express our conciliar consent that it is necessary to confirm the canonical status of the Russian Church Abroad for the future as a self-governing part of the Local Russian Church, in accordance with the Regulations of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia currently in force.

From discussions at the Council it is apparent that the participation of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate in the World Council of Churches evokes confusion among our clergy and flock. With heartfelt pain we ask the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate to heed the plea of our flock to expediently remove this temptation.

We hope that the forthcoming Local Council of One Russian Church will settle remaining unresolved church problems.

Bowing down before the podvig [spiritual feats] of the Holy New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia, glorified both by the Russian Church Abroad and by the Russian Church in the Fatherland, we see within them the spiritual bridge which rises above the abyss of the lethal division in the Russian Church and makes possible the restoration of that unity which is desired by all.

And we, the members of the IV All-Diaspora Council, address our brothers and sisters in the faith in our renascent Homeland with the Paschal hymns: "Pascha! Let us embrace each other joyously!"

And today i walk away from not only the Russian Orthodox church ,but from Christianity completely, I may burn in Hell, but God knows I tried and begged to be Baptised for 3 years, I needed to receive Holy Communion, for i dealt with the left hand path...

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                                  farewell

                                                  gilbert gamboa

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Fri 12 May 2006 12:10 am

CHRIST IS RISEN!

Niphon,

From Christianity too? Don't be insane. The history of Christianity is the only proof that Christ is God. All the saints attest to it. If you can't believe in that, then you are truely lost.

INDEED HE IS RISEN! And don't you forget it.

Joanna

Грешник · Post by **Грешник** » Fri 12 May 2006 12:58 am

Niphon,

I have been where you are. I have questioned the essence of life and Truth, I have questioned all of the things I held on Faith. In the end God has mercy on those who seek Him... believe me I am still trying.

"Lord I believe, help my unbelief.."

jacqueline · Post by **jacqueline** » Fri 12 May 2006 1:25 am

joasia wrote:
INDEED HE IS RISEN! And don't you forget it.

Please don't forget.

TomS · Post by **TomS** » Fri 12 May 2006 9:16 am

Myrrh wrote:
...Christ knows your heart, maybe what's happened here is protection for you - I've wondered why anyone would want to come into communion with any of the churches as the only thing they appear to have in common is each claiming its own legitimacy..,

Sophia! Enai e Alethia!

尼古拉前执事 · Post by **尼古拉前执事** » Fri 12 May 2006 9:01 pm

NIPHON wrote:
And today i walk away from not only the Russian Orthodox church ,but from Christianity completely, I may burn in Hell, but God knows I tried and begged to be Baptised for 3 years, I needed to receive Holy Communion, for i dealt with the left hand path...
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                                  farewell

                                                  gilbert gamboa[/quote]
Lord Have Mercy! Why do you do this?

spiridon · Post by **spiridon** » Sat 13 May 2006 1:03 pm

Well i guess i did this because I really needed prayers, I made a decision to leave 3 weeks ago at which time i started studying Buddhism and Hinduism, I also stopped praying and pulled all my Holy Icons and crucifix off my wall, and placed them with my Holy Bible and prayer rope and prayer books in a drawer... Why because the Jurisdictional disputes got me to a state of Confusion, and the evil one was able to attack and send me to find answers with buddhism and hindusim...about 5 days ago, i woke up out of bed and made the sign of the Cross- for no reason at all, it was really strange and I will never forget that night...when I was taking all my icons off the wall, i was pulling the Crucifix off the wall ( in the latin church its a custom to give the big crucifix on the coffin of a reposed person to the immidiate family- this one it was my Dads coffin cross) and it fell out of my hands as i was taking it off and almost shattered my t.v., i knew I was making a mistake at that time, but proceeded in putting it away...well a week ago this girl I met in the city asked me about my tattos and i showed her and she says "I have one but people think its scary and weird" .I then asked what it was and she turned around with her back towards me and lifted up her long hair and showed me a giant inverted pentagram on the back of her neck with a goat on it and funny symbols around it, and she says to me " Im a satanist its nice to meet you"... then before I left the store i was in , I showed her my russian Orthodox necklace cross and she smiled the next day I took that same cross off and put it away in my drawer....
then days later i noticed a pattern in my actions, first a decision then the icons then my necklace cross and then the satanist i met,
when I wrote the email that started this tread, well that night i had the strongest urge to pick up my bible and read it, I decided the urge was to strong so I went and when I pulled my drawer open, I was struck with tears, for i saw my dads Crucifix, my prayer ropes and neck cross and icons...I pulled everything out and prayed and prostrated and asked God for forgiveness and thanked him for preserving me here even as i wandered away and denied him...I prayed that night and pslam 142 never made more sense ...Thank you for your prayers, if you prayed for me, may God remember you for helping me... and remember he heard your prayers, they lifted me out of my own demise and filth that the evil one created long ago...forgive me if i attend an Orthodox church jurisdiction that you do not approve of, my intentions are not to have your approval, but to save my soul- and may god forgive me for being in the wrong Orthdox Jurisdiction, but I dont understand a whole lot, besides im more concerned with prayer and helping others ...
a wretched sinner