Armenian X-mas only real tradition not lost to modernism

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Armenian X-mas only real tradition not lost to modernism

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ARMENIAN CHRISTMAS
Why Armenians Celebrate Christmas on January 6th?
by Hratch Tchilingirian

"Armenian Christmas," as it is popularly called, is a culmination of
celebrations of events related to Christ's Incarnation. Theophany or
Epiphany (or Astvadz-a-haytnootyoon in Armenian) means
"revelation of God," which is the central theme of the Christmas
Season in the Armenian Church. During the "Armenian Christmas"
season, the major events that are celebrated are the Nativity of
Christ in Bethlehem and His Baptism in the River Jordan. The day
of this major feast in the Armenian Church is January 6th. A
ceremony called “Blessing of Water” is conducted in the
Armenian Church to commemorate Christ’s Baptism.
It is frequently asked as to why Armenians do not celebrate
Christmas on December 25th with the rest of the world. Obviously,
the exact date of Christ's birth has not been historically
established—it is neither recorded in the Gospels. However,
historically, all Christian churches celebrated Christ's birth on
January 6th until the fourth century. According to Roman Catholic
sources, the date was changed from January 6th to December 25th
in order to override a pagan feast dedicated to the birth of the Sun
which was celebrated on December 25th. At the time Christians
used to continue their observance of these pagan festivities. In
order to undermine and subdue this pagan practice, the church
hierarchy designated December 25th as the official date of
Christmas and January 6th as the feast of Epiphany. However,
Armenia was not effected by this change for the simple fact that
there were no such pagan practices in Armenia, on that date, and
the fact that the Armenian Church was not a satellite of the Roman
Church. Thus, remaining faithful to the traditions of their
forefathers, Armenians have continued to celebrate Christmas on
January 6th until today.
In the Holy Land: January 18th
In the Holy Land, the Orthodox churches use the old calendar
(which has a difference of twelve days) to determine the date of
the religious feasts. Accordingly, the Armenians celebrate
Christmas on January 18th and the Greek Orthodox celebrate on
January 6th.
On the day before Armenian Christmas, January 17th, the
Armenian Patriarch together with the clergy and the faithful,
travels from Jerusalem to the city of Bethlehem, to the Church of
Nativity of Christ, were elaborate and colorful ceremonies take
place. Outside, in the large square of the Church of Nativity, the
Patriarch and his entourage are greeted by the Mayor of Bethlehem
and City officials. A procession led by Armenian scouts and their
band, advance the Patriarch into the Church of Nativity, while
priests, seminarians and the faithful join in the sing of Armenian
hymns. Afterwards, church services and ceremonies are conducted
in the Cathedral of Nativity all night long and until the next day,
January 18th.

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Perhaps us in old Calendar churchs could persuade the importance of this kind of a letter...its hard to get time off for X-mas for us old calendarists
http://www.armenianchurch.org/worship/c ... letter.pdf

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in case you cant open the link above this is what the letter from there ArchBishop to employees,schools,and other civil people..

DIOCESE OF THE ARMENIAN CHURCH OF AMERICA

Archbishop Khajag Barsamian, Primate

A Message from His Eminence Archbishop Khajag Barsamian

Primate of the Diocese of the Armenian Church of America

This letter is intended for employers and school administrators to verify
that January 6 is a day of deep religious observance for the faithful of the
Armenian Church. On that day, Armenian families around the world will
celebrate the Feast of the Nativity and Theophany of our Lord Jesus Christ --
commonly known as Armenian Christmas. The day marks not only the birth of
Jesus Christ, but also His baptism.

By way of background: The traditions in the ancient Christian churches in
the different parts of the world were not uniform. By the end of the 3rd century
Christmas in Rome was held on December 25, which coincided with a major
pagan feast, while in the Eastern churches it was observed on January 6. The
Armenian Church remained outside the sway of the Roman Empire, and
therefore has maintained that ancient tradition to this day, whereas the Greek-
speaking Christian world switched to the Latin tradition at the end of the 4th
century.

I have urged all faithful Armenians to dedicate the entire day to
celebrating the gift God gave us in His only begotten Son by attending services in
their local parishes and joining their family in celebrating this joyous and holy
day. I sincerely hope that you will respect the religious nature of the occasion
and excuse from work or school any employees or students who are members of
the Armenian Church. It is especially important that parents and children be
able to share this day of worship together.

Thank you for your kind consideration. If you have any other questions,
please visit our website, www.armenianchurch.net. May God bless you.

With prayers,

Archbishop Khajag Barsamian
Primate

Headquartered in New York City, the Diocese of the Armenian Church of America has a membership of
more than 500,000 in more than 70 local churches and parish communities across the eastern U.S.

630 SECOND AVENUE, NEW YORK, NY 10016-4806 TELEPHONE 212.686.0710 FAX 212.779.3558

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Date Of Christmas...

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The date of Christmas came out of the adoption of the Julian Calendar at Nicea. It was set at 25, December (OS). Prior to that, that date as well as 6, January(OS) were common, one to the East, the other to the West. The Armenian insistence on 6, January shows a separate path taken from Nicea. However, the fact they celebrate on 6m January(NS) and not 19, January (NS)shows they have undergone some sort of calendar reform...
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Golly, are there "Old Calendarist' Armenians then?

Sorry, just a flippant temptation I could not resist. I have phantasies of some eccentric seeker after the exotic (which sometimes Orthodoxy attracts) suddenly finding a new avenue to pursue.

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Stephen forgive me if I tempted you with my Posting, please forgive me and forget it...The armenians are very cliqueish and well they havent had a Saint since the year 1500-1600, they hardly fast and arent really pious, and they still sacrafice lambs...they have held to some tradition ,but have missed alot of TRUTH....

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Friend,

Worry not, I just could not resist a temptation to be flippant. Hence the phantasy of 'Old Calendarist' Armenians.

Like the fathers on the Holy Mountain mine is not a fashionable and inclusive view of the non-Chalcedonians; although I have been very impressed by the piety and asceticism of those Copts and Ethopians I have come across. Indeed it has been in many ways easier to relate to them than many Catholics and protestants.

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