George:
Please you should comment with regard to this topic and stop to make ironic comments. and stop to make ironic comments and that anything has to do with this Topic.
Moderator: Mark Templet
Priest Siluan wrote:Please you should comment with regard to this topic and stop to make ironic comments. and stop to make ironic comments and that anything has to do with this Topic.
I'm sorry, I know this topic is about attacking and slandering other juristictions, as demonstrated by this post which you choose not to moderate:
Kollyvas wrote:But shouldn't you and yours be apologizing for your own or burning books or rewriting this or that aspect of history or changing some canon, ordaining women, maybe praying with a newly discovered tribe of african shamanists to the "earth spirit"?! Your ecumenist god is that "big" one, right--baal, mammon or belial?!
but I just cannot be that hate-filled....so I thought finding common ground in icecream flavours might help restore some human decency....obviously I was wrong.
"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."
Firstly, everyone's opinion is respected, and it's not a matter of hate but criticism and dialogue--not disregard of topic and discussion in a base manner. ECUMENISM IS HERESY. RENOVATIONISM IS HERESY. SERGIANISM IS HERESY. UNIONISM WITH ROME--what the ep is pursuing--IS BETRAYAL OF ORTHODOXY. RESISTANCE IS APPROPRIATE AND THE OIKUMENE AND RESISTANCE NEED RAPPROACHMENT, NOT SELL OUT. It is the endeavour of my presentation and this thread and others to come at things from that understanding. Exploring the pros and cons of various topics in this light is what this forum is about. You can go and start your own header and come up with whatever nonsense you want to say about me or "hate," but if you can't remain on topic or participate in a conversation, exclude yourself from it. Indeed, it seems things are termed "hate" when the other side is exposed for being without clothes or caught redhanded, definitely a commentary on your assessment of things when all you can tender is inanity. Fr. Komarovsky must be getting desperate to want to silence the criticism so basely...The new methods of the bunglers in ROCOR! LOL!!!
ORTHDODOXIA I THANATOS!
Rostislav Mikhailovich Malleev-Pokrovsky
PS I wrote:
"But shouldn't you and yours be apologizing for your own or burning books or rewriting this or that aspect of history or changing some canon, ordaining women, maybe praying with a newly discovered tribe of african shamanists to the "earth spirit"?! Your ecumenist god is that "big" one, right--baal, mammon or belial?!"
Such is the way of the heretical ecumenists who by their tactics try to silence others or apply labels and political correctness to imprison our minds--that they should marvel at invective when they offer it so freely with jeers and baiting, then resorting to accusations of "hate"?! The disingenuine are clear in their motives--SILENCE what they disagree with to prevent being exposed and end discussions which challenge the murkiness of the reality constructs they set forth...
Kollyvas wrote:UNIONISM WITH ROME--what the ep is pursuing--IS BETRAYAL OF ORTHODOXY. ..
Well, that's interesting.....
The fact is, though, that the OCA already recognises the validity of Roman Catholic Orders and receives their priests simply by vesting:
http://www.oca.org/QA.asp?ID=200&SID=3
"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."
This thread is about Fr. Komarovsky and ROCOR, not the OCA, but if that is the OCA practice, it is wrong...The ep freely prays with and concelebrates with the pope and pursues union without Orthodoxy, uncanonically "removing anathemas"--that's much more heinous. The one is unscrupulous reception of clerics into Orthodoxy. The other is sellout of Orthodoxy.
R
Kollyvas wrote:This thread is about Fr. Komarovsky and ROCOR,
Then why do you keep bringing up the Oecumenical Patriarchate?
"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."
Kollyvas wrote:ECUMENISM IS HERESY. RENOVATIONISM IS HERESY. SERGIANISM IS HERESY. UNIONISM WITH ROME--what the ep is pursuing--IS BETRAYAL OF ORTHODOXY.
I agree completely. Thats why its not a matter of Donatism when we break communion with heretics. Its a matter of Orthodoxy. By the way I my personal experiance of the Moscow Patriarchate it also is very friendly to Rome as long as its canonical territory isnt touched- but isnt that saying that the west is the canonical territory of the Roman Catholics and the Protestants?
If these things you mentioned are heresies and I agree with you. Isnt "SCOBA" in heresy? Can you have a heretical "Ecumene"? Shouldnt we break all communion with heresy?
Such is the way of the heretical ecumenists who by their tactics try to silence others or apply labels and political correctness to imprison our minds--that they should marvel at invective when they offer it so freely with jeers and baiting, then resorting to accusations of "hate"?! The disingenuine are clear in their motives--SILENCE what they disagree with to prevent being exposed and end discussions which challenge the murkiness of the reality constructs they set forth...
Well said.