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George Australia
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Post by George Australia »

Priest Siluan wrote:

I don't have any authority except which gave me my ruler bishop.

I would presume the same holds for Subdeacon Nathaniel, in which case the claim that:

Priest Siluan wrote:

personal declarations of Subdeacon Nathaniel are not the oficial points of view of the Russian Ortrhodox Autonomous Church (Free Russian Orthodox Church)

ring pretty hollow.
Clearly Subdeacon Nathaniel's ruler Bishop permits him to speak as a ROAC clergyman when he offers his "personal declarations" and sign himself as:

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

+ROAC SUBDEACON nathanael kapner
Confessor - +ROAC Archimandrite Andre' (Maklakov)

"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."

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Priest Siluan wrote:

I believe that you are acting in opportunist and provocative way, I believe than that is not good for you.

Your opinion is duly noted. But my intention is not to be provocative. And what opportunuity is there for me here?

"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."

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Re: You will soon hear from +ROAC Adm FR Andre' Maklakov

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Brother Nathaniel wrote:

Dear Priest Siluan,

You will soon hear from the +ROAC Adm Fr Andre' Maklakov
not to succomb to and apologize to PRO MP advocates and
Anglicans and cowards who hide behind aliases.

Shame on you preist Siluan- shame on you.

+ROAC Subdeacon Nathanael Kapner
Milton L Kapner
Confessor: +ROAC Archimandritre Andre' (Maklakov)

And if Fr. Andre sees what you have been writing and takes your side against Fr. Siluan, then everyone at Euphrosynoscafe will have the answer they have been looking for.

"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."

Nathaniel Kapner

To suspend priest Siluan from the +ROAC priesthood

Post by Nathaniel Kapner »

Dear George,

You really dont get it do you. I do not seek the honour that
comes from man. Do you really think that I care that Priest
Siluan will ban me from this List?

My Live Journal @
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sbn_nathanael/
has my full biography. Ive been around and you and your
Pro MP friends of whom Priest Siluan has succomed to
(shame on him) will be hearing a whole lot more from me.

You better believe it!

+Subdeacon Nathanael Kapner

BTW - I have just petitioned +ROAC Adm Fr Andre' Maklakov
to suspend priest Siluan from the prieshood for interference
with our North American Diocese. We are not PRO MP!

Quote of the day - "better run, better take cover."

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Post by SouthernOrthodox »

I think the answer has already been "uncovered". It boils down to respect (or the lack there of). It's very sad to see and turning on one of your own, what else can one say. Father Siluan, I can not speak for the rest of us here in ROCOR, but I stand behind you. It is unthinkable for any Orthodox Christian to bluntly dis-respect Priesthood Authority and in the same jurisdiction, boy oh boy. It's not a question of pro this or anti that, it's a matter of Orthodoxy. Basic tenants of who we are. We see clearly one's who are not.

Wow bold statements from a lunatic. May the Lord help you.

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Re: To suspend priest Siluan from the +ROAC priesthood

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Brother Nathaniel wrote:

You really dont get it do you.

Hey, looney tunes, I think it's you who ain't getting it....it's over...you've exposed yourself...and ROAC to shame. You're in big trouble fella.

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

Do you really think that I care that Priest
Siluan will ban me from this List?

He's a much bigger man than you, he's not gonna ban you, stop playing the victim.

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

My Live Journal @
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sbn_nathanael/
has my full biography.

There you go again, mistaking me for someone who has an interest in your biography.

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

Ive been around and you and your
Pro MP friends of whom Priest Siluan has succomed to
(shame on him) will be hearing a whole lot more from me.

Why don't you calm down, take some responsibility for yourself, and get some treatment?

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

BTW - I have just petitioned +ROAC Adm Fr Andre' Maklakov
to suspend priest Siluan from the prieshood for interference
with our North American Diocese. We are not PRO MP!

And if Fr. Andre doesn't order you to seek psychiatric treatement, he needs his own head examined.

"As long as it depends on Monothelitism, then Miaphysitism is nothing but a variant of Monophysitism."

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Post by Ekaterina »

You know Nathaniel, you are beyond anything I have ever encountered, either well or ill.

My God have mercy on you soul. May he enlighten you to His Truth.

To now attack an innocent man of the cloth is just lunacy!

You really do need to get help.

I think is is past time that Father Deacon Nikolai get involved here. He really needs to get up out of his sick bed and handle this situation, especially considering that he invited Nathaniel to this forum. This is simply not right!

May God have mercy on your soul Nathaniel.....

Katya

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